Devolution Power Hour Live!

April 24, 2023 Live from GART with Jon Herold, Patrick Gunnels, Just Human, and Burning Bright

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Jon Herold [00:02:08] Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Devolution Power Hour, the live edition coming from Chandler, Arizona. And I am so sorry for that intro that we just gave. I'm joined by Patrick Gunnels. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:02:25] Hi. 

Jon Herold [00:02:27] Just Human. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:02:28] Hello. 

Jon Herold [00:02:31] And we have a really good show tonight. 

BurningBright [00:02:35] And actually, Lily gave me a separate table. I think I'm literally at the kids table. So I understand the symbolism. And all fiat donations tonight will be made directly to GMoney. 

Jon Herold [00:02:49] Yeah. 

BurningBright [00:02:50] So. 

Jon Herold [00:02:51] Okay, so this has been a fantastic event. I could not be happier. You guys have been great. We have... How many people do you think are here right now? But we got about a hundred people. I'm still bad at guessing this stuff. But there's a lot of people here right now. 

Jon Herold [00:03:11] 81 million mail-in, in person people. No, but because of this event we've been kind of unplugged from the news and we didn't do a whole lot of prep. So we're going to make this kind of a Q&A type show. So we have people here and we have a mic in the back if you want to ask questions. We also have Rumble rants will read through. Um, anything you guys want to discuss right off the bat before we get to the questions, I guess? I guess. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:03:48] I saw a silly little story that may be accurate about a deep underground military base in Kiev that they're talking about. But I don't know if... I haven't in any way vetted that story. So here I am just tossing it out there on the Devolution Power Hour. 

Jon Herold [00:04:03] No sauce. That we like. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:04:03] None. No sauce, not fake news. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:04:05] I saw that a Hunter Biden's attorneys contacted DOJ and want to talk to them about his case and that Hunter, his attorneys, U.S. attorney Weiss -- he's running the investigation -- and an official from DOJ headquarters are going to meet together next week. 

Jon Herold [00:04:21] Say one more time? So who's meeting together? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:04:23] So Hunter Biden, his attorneys are meeting with U.S. Attorney Weiss and at least one official from DOJ headquarters next week to talk about his case. 

BurningBright [00:04:32] The Garland DOJ? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:04:34] Yes, the Garland DOJ. 

BurningBright [00:04:36] The evil, never going to do anything. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:04:37] Yes. 

BurningBright [00:04:39] I also saw one of the headlines, and I forget if it was WaPo or the New York Times, that was talking about Hunter Biden. The official wording that they used was "Hunter Biden Story Grows Legs." So it's just, these are some of those interesting, you know, when we talk about the Overton Window sometimes in the media and how a lot of us don't like reading the mainstream media, but we do because that's the enemy framing, right? So when the enemy is starting to move that Overton window and say that the Hunter Biden story has suddenly grown legs, right. What do we say? That the truth doesn't become the truth. It always was the truth. But now the media is starting to maybe try to get ahead of whatever's going on here. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:05:17] And at the same time, we had that news out of Congress where a former CIA deputy director, Morell, testified in Congress, and in there he revealed that there had been contact between him and the Biden campaign. And it seems like there was some arrangement by the Biden campaign for that letter signed by 51 intelligence officials to say that the Biden laptop was Russian disinfo. In late 2020, it looks like the Biden campaign was in some way significantly involved in that letter. 

Jon Herold [00:05:44] 100%. I'd be curious to find out or to see as things play out what's going to be the bigger red pill for people, whether it's going to be the Hunter Biden, David Weiss investigation into that classified documents scandal? Or is it going to be Durham? Because like nobody's talked about Durham or like except for Kyle. Kyle's the only one really talking about Durham anymore. But you know what I mean? Like what's going to have a bigger impact on the public? 

Patrick Gunnels [00:06:09] Ashley sent me a meme. Ashley sent me a meme from Canadian news. And it goes like this. It's an actual headline:. 

[00:06:19] "Conspiracy theorists keep getting things right. Experts say that's dangerous. And the subtitle is even better: Movements like the Freedom Convoy are fueled by conspiracy theories. And when those theories are proven correct, it legitimizes them." 

[00:06:45] So I don't really know what to say about that. 

BurningBright [00:06:50] Yeah, see, we know... This is why, again, when you look at things from a narrative perspective, Kyle is one of those weirdos. And John, too, that digs into things that are actually going on, which is boring, the boring stuff. But when you just look at the war of stories, they've lied about so much that now their headlines are just basically saying, well, they're right about everything but for the wrong reasons. So it's again, it's when you look at how they're moving things with their headlines. And the Hunter stuff. What's going on over there? Deena! Dach! You have one job and it's to keep those two. 

Jon Herold [00:07:31] It's her birthday tomorrow. So yeah we'll forgive her. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:07:35] Happy birthday. 

Jon Herold [00:07:40] Happy birthday. Well, we'll sing Happy birthday to everybody at the end. 

BurningBright [00:07:43] So when you see the Hunter stuff in the news, you've also got on the same day, you also had Comer coming out with much more on well, saying that he's got much more with Joe, CCP elements. So again it's these are separate investigations supposedly, but the headlines seem to keep coming out on the same day between Hunter and Joe from different sources. So that's kind of interesting. 

Justin Deschamps [00:08:14] We got a question from the VIP room here, and if you guys got questions, come on back here. How did Badlands come about? 

Jon Herold [00:08:22] It's not really a devolution question, but know, maybe maybe we should talk about that tomorrow, Kate. I mean, we feel we have, but it was like a Kate and I brainchild type thing, like it's... 

BurningBright [00:08:37] A fever dream. 

Jon Herold [00:08:38] Some Yeah. Good question. But we'll talk about that tomorrow. That's more Badlands really we're looking more at Devolution questions, if you got them. We should honestly talk about Fox and Dominion. 

BurningBright [00:08:48] I was going to say one of the one of the things I think is most interesting with Fox-Dominion is many of us remember watching the news on November 3rd, 2020, and most of us noticed that they definitely didn't have the A squad on the Fox News desk. You know, you'd think it was the most watched presidential election ever. And they had they rolled out the 'spergs' and yeah didn't have the Fox A squad on there and they were the first of the media channels to call Arizona for Biden with less than 1% of the vote in. Right? Something like that. We all watched that live. Right? 

[00:09:22] So there's this concept we often talk about called narrative shielding. And to me, that's what Fox was doing on November 3rd. They're kind of, in my opinion, wolves in sheep's clothing. That doesn't necessarily mean that every single person that's on Fox or that ever has been is a wolf. But going to call a spade a spade. These are the same people that sold us the war in the Middle East. A lot of people are still plugged into that stuff. You got to unplug from it. They're not your friends. They're rage porn. They want you mad all the time. They'll tell you just enough truth to get you pissed off, and then they'll rug pull you, to borrow a G Money term, at the last second. Because then you believe them. Well surely if Fox says that Biden won, then he definitely won. 

[00:10:06] Now, fast forward to today and we see Fox in a  lawsuit with Fox and Fox immediately settles. Right? We don't have to talk about this anymore. Here's $800 million. And what does that do? It Weaponizes... Every media organization on the planet can immediately say 'election fraud has been debunked. And even Fox admits it." Right? So this is how that works when we talk about, kind of, the wolves in sheep's clothing. Con Inc, this is why they are very literally much more dangerous and insidious than CNN. Nobody gives a crap about CNN. Nobody watches them. A lot of people watch Fox. And that's why I think that conservatives really need to start paying attention to the net effects of things Fox is involved with because they don't seem to turn out very well for us. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:11:01] Yeah, Fox was. They were fighting that lawsuit and they were eager to go to trial up until the judge said that they could subpoena the host to be up there on the witness stand and they could subpoena and put on the stand Rupert Murdoch and Paul Ryan. And when that happened, Fox suddenly decided, we better settle this thing. And they settled it the night before the trial was supposed to start. They'd already selected a jury and. 

Jon Herold [00:11:27] They postponed it a day. I'm pretty sure they were supposed to start Monday. They delayed until Tuesday and they settled it overnight. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:11:33] And so Fox and Fox paid what, like one point? How much they paid half of what Dominion was asking for. 

Jon Herold [00:11:39] $787 million. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:11:41] So it was like basically half of what Dominion had been suing them for. That's how much it was worth to Fox to pay, not to have those people on the witness stand and to not have to defend what they put on the air. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:11:53] It's just one criminal organization transferring a whole bunch of money to another criminal organization. They've always been on the same side. Yeah,  we've always known it. And it sucks that a great many normies are going to, I don't know, be devastated by this. But to me, it's just criminals being criminals. 

Jon Herold [00:12:13] Well, it's kind of funny. The left is celebrating like, "Oh, gosh, Fox News had to pay a whole bunch of money or whatever." And I'm like, here celebrating, too. Like oh, Fox News had to pay a whole bunch of money, like, screw em! Like what they did in Arizona when we were here, that they were the ones that called it, what, 6:00 PM local time? 

BurningBright [00:12:30] 1% of the vote in  they called it. 

Jon Herold [00:12:32] Insanity, man. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:12:33] It's amazing the level of numerical illiteracy required that anybody tolerated them seeing 1% of precincts and calling the state. The fact that they can do that at all and ever get away with it just means we've really declined in our ability to understand numbers. 

BurningBright [00:12:53] And I think what what this does, what this kind of, when you see these headlines, the negative thing that it does besides that the lawsuit itself is, I think it acts, besides its legal precedents that we talk about a lot, it acts as a as a psychological shield, a psychological deterrent, to people that are thinking about investigating election fraud, asking questions about election fraud, like we've had a lot of prominent people here tonight talking about that. 

[00:13:21] And I think that when I look at Fox being at the heart of this, as Patrick just said, it's one criminal organization transferring money to another, if you take that very literally. And I think it was meant literally, you can see that this is a manner in which the media industrial complex closes ranks to protect its own. These are the systems that put these people in power. The media is there to guard these systems. They are not there to expose these systems. 

[00:13:51] And what this does is it discourages people. Well, if even Fox immediately caved and they must have powerful lawyers, right? They've got a lot of funding. They've got powerful lawyers. They could have fought this for eight years if they wanted to. And they immediately caved in one day and paid $800 million. It's supposed to discourage people from investigating. But I. I hope that it doesn't, because if you see through it, you see that it's a smokescreen. 

[00:14:14] Basically, if you think that there is election fraud and then asking questions, there's nothing illegal about asking questions, or conducting investigations and bringing evidence to legislatures and all that kind of stuff. So that's what I think it's for. That's what I think the intent is. And I think that too many people look at this and they go, oh, Fox News is being victimized. And I think if you flip that around, things make a little more sense. 

Jon Herold [00:14:40] Question? 

Man [00:14:41] Yes, first of all, I'd like to thank you all for not just having the attendees here, but everybody in the panels has just been a tremendous source of information for everyone. So thank you so much. 

Jon Herold [00:14:51] Thank you. Our pleasure. 

Man [00:14:53] My question in Devolution theory is, since we've already heard on a previous panel that the idea of Trump-Pence coming back in 2024, Just Human mentioned that and that was his ideal scenario. I think I would like to know what your ideal scenario is now. Caveat from that. 

Jon Herold [00:15:15] I'm Trump-Pence all the way. Like I've been saying it for a long time, like they won twice. Why would you not go for the three-peat? You know what I mean? Yeah, 100% Trump-Pence all the way. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:15:25] I'm also 100% Trump-Pence because it will cause so many people's heads to explode, you know that people are going to be freaking out. And all I want is to be entertained during this time. 

Jon Herold [00:15:40] That's it. Okay. How many people here actually don't like Pence? Okay. How many of you here believe Pence is a pedophile? Okay. See,  because there's a lot of, Pence gets a bad rap from stuff that's not even real. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:16:01] It's not really. It was an actual psyop that was conducted after January 6 to damage the man and ruin his career and his credibility. And it was a bunch of fake info with fake whistleblowers and a jerk of an attorney who's a liar. And they put it all out there as a psyop to damage Pence. You know, a lot of people liked Pence up until that day and that psyop began that day. 

Jon Herold [00:16:26] CannCon. Take the mic. We got CannCon in the house. I want CannCon to explain why he doesn't like Mike Pence. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:16:37] Oh, damn.

Jon Herold [00:16:38] No pressure. 

CannCon [00:16:41] Because he didn't do his job. 

Woman [00:16:43] Thank you. 

CannCon [00:16:44] He didn't do his job. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:16:47] He followed the Constitution. 

CannCon [00:16:50] I disagree. Strongly disagree. 

BurningBright [00:16:54] Well, to me, I looked at that whole thing as “look who entered office.” You know, we don't think they should have entered office right after that. Right? Look at who they are, never mind who the president is -- the supposed president. Look at who the vice president is. 

Jon Herold [00:17:08] Well, I'm curious, CannCon. Hold on, CannCon. 

CannCon [00:17:11] Ha ha ha ha. You're such a douche to say that. 

Jon Herold [00:17:14] Hold on. Well, you don't like pens right now. You don't think he did his job. 

CannCon [00:17:18] It's not that I don't like him. I just think there's better options for 2020. 

Jon Herold [00:17:21] We don't even have to discuss that.  What would it feel like for you if Trump comes out and says Trump-Pence 2024? 

CannCon [00:17:29] I'm okay with it. It's not like it's not like I'm against it. Like that's not a dealbreaker for me in any way, shape or form. I just feel like there's better options out there for 2024. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:17:39] I was curious and I kind of wanted to put you on the spot, so. 

CannCon [00:17:41] No, you're good. You're good. I would take Trump-DeSantis over, or Trump-Lake. Trump Lake if she, you know, doesn't win her battle out here. Trump-Noem, I've told you before, my dark horse is Tulsi Gabbard, so... 

CannCon [00:17:56] Oh, I know, I know. I know. The World Economic Forum. That was all a joke. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:18:00] I enjoyed the joke. I personally enjoyed being triggered by the Tulsi Gabbard comment. But as far as Kari Lake is concerned, that woman would be so devastating as governor of Arizona that I wouldn't dream of putting her in so silly a position as the V.P.. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:18:18] Where is she? Where's Kari Lake? She should be at Badlands. 

BurningBright [00:18:22] Well, I just think a lot of us also, when you're actually looking at what happened on that day, I think that we're on the same page with this. But when you talk about these words, Kyle uses the term template all the time, right? Legal templates, political templates, process. And when you look at that day, we look at it with these MAGA goggles and look at what Pence was doing on that day in the house. And now what if you flip that scenario around and you've got Kamala Harris in that spot? That's I think what not enough people consider, that if you set that precedent, that's a precedent now that is set, that anybody in the future can do. Do we want to have an election? Let's say we clean up elections, actually do it. We can trust our elections, same day paper ballots. Then we've got a VP who can just block it, right? Rattle off a voice vote. And, you know, that's the sort of precedent that when, as Kyle says, that Pence did his constitutional duty, whatever I think of him personally, and I don't really have a strong opinion on it, but do we want that kind of precedent being set, even if in that day it was the right thing? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:19:30] When when Trump wins in 2024 and the electoral votes are being ready to count in January of 2025, I bet you the Democrats are going to be screaming at Kamala Harris to reject those slates of electors far louder than we ever screamed at Pence. But the precedent has already been set that she can't do anything about it. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:19:54] My goodness. Yes. The idea of setting the precedent that the VP can just do a reset on the election. Can you imagine what the Democrats would do with that? I mean, we'd never have an election again, not even a fake one. Which are the elections we have right now. 

Jon Herold [00:20:10] I still think it goes back to how much they knew they were going to have to go into devolution, like how far ahead of time. And I think of December 18th, 2020, when you have Christopher Miller giving that speech. And I don't remember who it was, so I was talking to somebody last night. I know he was at ThreadFest 1 I think, and then not at ThreadFest 2. But he's here. 

[00:20:30] He was talking about the emotion in Chris Miller's voice, like this hardened Special Forces guy who's almost choking up, tearing up. And he was, speculating like, you know what if they were talking about the kids? Like, we've been through some stuff or we're talking about the kids? And I still think that it was Christopher Miller... Because because I've rewatched this video so many times, I still think it's him basically acknowledging that 'Pence you're about to be vilified and hated by all of Trump's supporters' And CannCon. 

[00:20:57] And and and you're not going to. That's going to be a bad time. I mean, he... People hate him, but I think it's unjustified. If he did what he was supposed to do and he knew he's signing up for that, I mean, that's how I would address the guy. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:21:12] Trump literally just came out, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago and said, Hey,  Pence is a great guy. 

BurningBright [00:21:17] He also reiterated that in a few days after that, he put a Truth post out saying, you know, you've been vilified and all that. And then he just made one of his famous asides just a few days ago and basically said, you know, he's actually a really nice guy. Right. But we were talking about this months ago when we were always getting flamed for it, when we used the word kayfabe and everybody gets mad at us and throws stuff at us. And then we said, Well, wait till the rehabilitation tour kicks on, kicks off. And then sure enough, Trump changed his messaging from "Pence sucks, and he's the worst, and he betrayed everybody" to "He's really actually a nice guy. And you really shouldn't be too hard on a man. You know, We'll see what happens in the future." 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:21:58] And "He never did anything knowingly wrong in his life." 

BurningBright [00:22:02] That was Trump's direct quote. "He never knowingly did anything wrong in his entire life" was his direct quote. 

Justin Deschamps [00:22:08] We got a Pence-related question here from the audience. 

Jon Herold [00:22:10] Oh, God. 

Woman [00:22:11] So what about the Pence-Pelosi fist bump at the end of the electoral vote? What did that mean? 

Jon Herold [00:22:19] I don't think it means anything like. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:22:21] Yeah, I don't really think it means anything. 

Jon Herold [00:22:23] And I've seen people like, they got a coin, right? That's a commemorative coin. They do that for everything, like every single elector Electoral College vote. You get a commemorative coin. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:22:35] I mean, I mean, they are politicians that work together in DC day in, day out for years and years and years. They know each other. They're familiar. What's he going to gain by being rude to her on the floor after that session? You know, I mean, it's just a fist bump. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:22:49] And the same thing like shaking Pelosi's hand before the speech, the State of the Union speech. Right? Does that mean they're all best friends with Pelosi? I don't know. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:22:59] They're definitely in a very exclusive club together. And there is an unspoken, possibly spoken, message that it is them and they're all on the same team. And their design is to pretend to be on opposite sides, but they actually just go have drinks afterward. And that has got to continue if anybody in there is going to be a secret rebel for the other side. 

Jon Herold [00:23:25] I think what that's like, maybe that what maybe the fist bump was a "Yeah! We finally did it!" But what if they were accomplishing the same goal for both sides? Like, what if Trump wanted the same thing to happen? You know what I mean? Like, if Trump and Pence, if their goal is like, we have to implement devolution, you guys got to cement the deal with what you did on January 6th. I don't know. I think it's accomplishing both goals. Do you? 

BurningBright [00:23:49] It's the whole concept of psyops that we talk about. And, you know, sometimes when we used to talk about psyops, people look at us like we have three heads until prominent generals and MAGA figures and people who work with Trump start talking about psyops and all of a sudden everybody talks about psyops. 

[00:24:03] Well, if you're talking about psyops, it's all about tricking an enemy, right? So ostensibly, if you're running PSYOPS and you've got your enemy happy with what you're doing, it's probably a successful psyop. And that could be that. That could be what's happening, might have nothing to do with what's happening. But again, that's why you got to look at it from both sides, right? 

[00:24:21] I think... I like what Canncon was saying where, you know, he doesn't personally like Pence or want him to be the VP, but if Trump chooses him, he'll support him. And I think what the reason maybe we push back on that is because of the reactive nature of it, right within the MAGA base where it's like "Pence a satanic, Pence this, Pence that, and he betrayed us" and it's like, well, what happens if Trump comes out and picks him as his VP? You're going to not vote for him? Right? 

[00:24:44] So that's sort of the point here is that it's far less important who the VP pick is than who the ticket is, who is the candidate for president of the United States? That's what matters. So we've all got our theories on Mike Pence, what he did, which side he was working for. 

[00:25:01] I do think it's interesting that Trump uses the word 'knowingly' in that, that could, to argue against us, it could mean that Trump did do something. I mean, sorry that Pence did do something wrong. And it's Trump's opinion that he was misled or something like that. So there could be all different shades of what's going on here. But again, a lot of people dig into that foxhole of Pence bad! And Never Pence! Okay. Well, you have to prepare yourself to be consistent with that line of thought. If Trump picks him as VP. So what are you going to do if he does? 

Jon Herold [00:25:30] And if he doesn't, you know, we'll address that.  

BurningBright [00:25:34] We'll probably be happy. Yeah. 

Jon Herold [00:25:35] But we want to read you some Rumble Rants. 

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[00:26:07] We have to remember how many things that the progressives were right about back in the day when we were busy voting for John McCain and supporting blowing up Iraq and other various horrifying things. The progressives were way ahead of us on that. Once we get them on our side and a bunch of moderate Democrats on our side, I think this war is over in the next hour. 

BurningBright [00:26:26] Biden, Biden, environmental policies currently are not helping him with progressives either, which is one of the most hilarious things to watch, where he's approving pipelines and Gulf Coast drilling and all sorts of restarting Trump era energy policies. And you've got far left, progressives freaking out day and night, which is just causing this cognitive dissonance with them where they don't know what to do. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:26:51] Yeah, it's a lot of fun to go read the leftist media, the real leftist media, not just the MSM, but the stuff that is way on the left and see what they say about Biden. You'll find out they're not happy with him at all because they think he's continuing far too many of Trump era policies. 

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Jon Herold [00:27:22] Oh, I didn't see that last night. Yeah. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:27:26] Yeah, he said. There's only... I think he said we only got a year and a half or it's only a year and a half away. Make sure you stay healthy. Yeah. 

BurningBright [00:27:33] Well, who would be in favor of a Flynn-Trump ticket? Yeah. Yeah, I think we'd all be okay with that. And we've all been waiting for a redemption tour there, so that'll be a big redemption tour. 

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Jon Herold [00:28:11] We'll go to a question on the back too. So. 

Woman [00:28:14] Hi, guys. Quick question. Jon brought up investigations and he said the Durham investigation. But maybe Kyle can say this. But don't the Clintons have an investigation going on too? Doesn't Huber have an open investigation on Hillary Clinton going on? Kyle?

Kyle (Just Human) [00:28:30] Well, Huber is working for a private firm now, but I can't. And he's been working there for a couple of years, but I can't find any cases he's been involved with, so I don't know what he's doing. 

Woman [00:28:40] Did he ever present the report? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:28:42] Yeah, Before he left office, he handed off his Clinton Foundation investigation to John Durham. And John Durham. I had... The Clinton whistleblowers reached out to me on Twitter a few weeks ago when I, or a couple of months ago when I wrote my last article and said that they sat down with John Durham for a number of hours talking to him about their involvement with the Clinton Foundation. So I don't know what Durham's going to bring against the Clinton Foundation, if anything, but he definitely gathered up John Huber's portion of that investigation, and it's under his office now. 

BurningBright [00:29:18] Kyle's mustache was also directly inspired by John Durham. 

Justin Deschamps [00:29:23] We got a VIP question here. Have you seen the Where's Hunter video from DJT? Any thoughts on that? 

Jon Herold [00:29:30] Interesting, isn't it? 

BurningBright [00:29:33] Well, this is that, again, narrative stuff, where Trump sort of has such power not just in sort of right wing or America first MAGA media, but in the media in general. Anything he says. Right? The media lost all their funding. They've lost all their advertising money with him not in office. Any time he puts anything out. It's worldwide news and he always seems to seed that out like a day before a new bombshell comes out about Hunter or Joe or anything like that. So it has a playful tone to it. To me, he keeps saying, Where's Hunter? And then you've got new developments. 

Justin Deschamps [00:30:09] Real quick, can you recap the video for people who haven't seen it? 

Patrick Gunnels [00:30:12] I can do that. Yeah. It's Donald Trump saying where's Hunter? And then immediately fade to Trump- Pence, I mean, Trump 2024. That's it. That's the whole ad. It's like 8 seconds long. 

Jon Herold [00:30:28] So it's an advertisement. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:30:30] What day did Trump put this out? 

Patrick Gunnels [00:30:31] I don't know. I don't know. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:30:34] Because the article on Hunter meeting next week with the DOJ and his attorneys and U.S. attorney Weiss came out on the 19th, I believe. So it'd be interesting if Trump's video came out right before that. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:30:46] That sounds almost exactly right. Wednesday night. Well, the nighteenth... 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:30:52] That would be the 19th, that would be the same day. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:30:53] Well, would you look at that? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:30:56] Okay. Okay. Nice. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:30:59] Just just to make sure that we don't lose sight of the fact that apparently it's totally normal for Hunter Biden to record himself on video smoking crack with underage prostitutes, because that totally makes sense. And then drop it off at a computer repair shop. The whole thing is madness to start with. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:31:21] So I think two things are going on with that. I think that CCP was controlling his computer camera and making those recordings while he wasn't paying attention. He was just like surfing the web or something. But they're making that into blackmail tapes of him. And then the second thing I think going on there is that he purposefully loaded up his laptops with evidence and conveniently 'forgot' them to where they could be turned into law enforcement later. 

Jon Herold [00:31:47] This is we've got an interesting story, this kind of breaking news. Patrick, you want to read through this? It's on the screen, but. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:31:52] Revealed: Trump wanted to set up a coronavirus commission to publicly grill Anthony Fauci ahead of the election. And officials suspected China developed COVID 19 vaccine before the outbreak, according to a new book. In August 2020, White House trade adviser Peter Navarro drafted an executive order to set up a coronavirus commission. President Trump was enthusiastic, according to a forthcoming book. It would quiz Anthony Fauci about why his institute funded controversial virus work in China, and it would collect evidence as the prelude to demanding damages from China. But the plan was reportedly shelved amid concerns it would destroy relations with Beijing and would be seen as a partisan move ahead of the election. The book also reveals a State Department report that raised questions about the speed with which China lodged vaccine patent applications. One explanation was that its scientists began their research before the outbreak. 

Jon Herold [00:33:00] So. So think about this, guys. I mean, just the title of this. Trump wanted to set up a COVID commission to publicly grill Fauci ahead of the election, but he shelved it. I mean, so that tells you right there that Trump knew who the culprit was. Everybody blames Trump for COVID and the vaccine and all this stuff. He's telling you right here that it was Fauci. But he shelved it. 

BurningBright [00:33:23] Well, this is why a lot of us look at Fauci as, you know, we talk about narrative seeding and all that kind of stuff or shielding. And look at who Trump put in front of himself at all those press conferences that we remember in 2020, talking about the virus response and all that stuff. He had Fauci and Birx front and center and he'd give a statement and then he'd say, "Well, thank God we have these experts that are the ones coming up with all this policy to respond." 

[00:33:53] And I've been on the record on many podcasts talking about, you know, a lot of us talk about "when are people going to wake up?" you know, what's going to be the thing that kind of breaks the mold and kind of gets them to question things? And to me, we look at the Hegelian dialectic. That's what the Deep State sort of uses. Problem, reaction, solution. A lot of us believe in false flags, that kind of thing. It's all about introducing a problem, provoking a reaction, pre-programing a solution. 

[00:34:19] And the biggest PSYOP, or trauma that's affected Americans in the last few years has been COVID. Lockdowns, vaccines, mandates, all that kind of stuff. Fauci is the face of that response. The left glorified him. Even a lot of centrists did. He was the “face of science.” He's the face of an entire institution and an entire era and philosophical approach to the most  traumatic era of the last decade or so. 

[00:34:46] So imagine the whiplash, if you get that kind of guy back in front of real committees with real subpoena power. If you have a rematch, maybe with the likes of Rand Paul or someone like that. And every month now we've got more and more coming out. We're now, again, when you pay attention to the mainstream media headlines, even though they lied to us, they went from saying that 'there was nothing going on in Wuhan' to 'now the Wuhan lab leak is the most likely scenario.' Right? But what was the other conspiracy conspiracy theory about Wuhan? That the NIH and Anthony Fauci funded that research knowingly. 

[00:35:20] So that window is being moved. And now when you go back in time and you look at who Trump was putting front and center, Trump's not going to take the whiplash of these reveals. Fauci is. And the leftist media is who actually unintentionally helped us. They helped Trump do that because they glorified Fauci when Trump was criticizing him. So now they're going to have to own that. They're going to either have the choice to kind of put "science" out up Schitt's Creek without a paddle. Or they're going to have to defend Fauci and the NIH. So it's sort of a we win/they lose scenario. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:36:02] Yeah, I was going to say that like two weeks ago, Elon Musk was taking a whole lot of flack because people were mad he hadn't released the Fauci files and then he and Matt Taibbi had kind of a falling out and everybody was saying "Elon Musk was a rug pull. Elon Musk didn't deliver on the Fauci files. When are they coming out? So much for Elon Musk being a good guy.". 

[00:36:21] And a couple of days later he dropped the Fauci files. And then now we have this article which is also talking about Fauci. I don't know. It just seems like things are pretty well timed to come out. It's exposure and disclosure and then justice. And we're in this exposure-disclosure phase right here and I love it. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:36:39] I didn't read the Fauci files, but I heard they were kind of underwhelming, like stuff we already kind of knew. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:36:46] Well.  I'll take it for now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's not more. We know that there's some investigations that Twitter's involved with. So I think a lot of it is that they can't... You can't put everything out there yet. But tying in... There's the timing of that, and then this, especially what Jon has highlighted here, it looks like there's a State Department analysis that was handed over to Mike Pompeo. And says "it may seem likely that the Wuhan Institute of Virology has been researching a vaccine before the outbreak." The State Department figured that out under Pompeo. 

Jon Herold [00:37:18] Is that the guy that was pictured with Giuliani and Bannon? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:37:21] No, no, this is a different guy. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:37:25] It was Miles Guo. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:37:26] Oh, yeah. You're talking about Miles Guo. No, no, no. 

BurningBright [00:37:29] But even that. 

Jon Herold [00:37:29] Same first name, that was close. 

BurningBright [00:37:31] A lot of us know about the stuff in the Fauci files that came out on Twitter as well. But again, you have to consider the audience. And one of my favorite things about everything with Musk in the last couple of years is that if you imagine, like the quintessential Tesla driver from two years ago, they're probably wearing three masks. And, you know, they believe strongly in mail-in ballots. They pray to them at night before they go to bed. 

[00:37:54] And these are the people that Musk has basically been shattering their psyches over the last couple of years because they're virtue signaling in their Teslas while they're driving around. But they're also supposed to be programmed to think that now, the guy who invented the Tesla is a Nazi. And I think this is the audience, that reachable, centrist audience, that a lot of them had kind of defected from the Democrat Party. They started looking for people like Bernie and all that, sort of mavericks, seeming mavericks on the  "left.". 

[00:38:24] Elon was considered one of those people just a couple of years ago. He's certainly not considered a Trump guy. I mean, the media is painting him that way these days, but that's not what he was considered. So when you kind of look at who's the intended audience of the Fauci files, sort of Twitter dump, I don't think it's us who have been talking about this stuff since 2020. 

[00:38:43] So it sort of feels like, okay, now that's out there a little bit more. I remember some of the early Fauci files were talking about the Wuhan lab leak in general, and now about three months later, mainstream media is acknowledging, "well, yeah, I mean, of course, it came out of the Wuhan lab." 

[00:38:59] So fast forward three months from now and we may be getting the mainstream media saying, "well, I mean, yeah, Fauci did fund bioweapons research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but we didn't know about it." 

Jon Herold [00:39:12] Are you done? Are you done? Okay. Oh, this is. This part's fascinating here. Do you want it? Do you want a reader? I feel like. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:39:24] Quoting Donald Trump. I couldn't. I just. Oh, yeah. So this is referring to Trump's desire to do this grilling of Fauci thing. "But it was killed off by the president's economic advisers,” he said, who feared it would shatter already strained relations with China and concerns that it would look like a partisan move so close to an election. I just couldn't get it past the usual suspects in the White House, he said, referring to Larry Kudlow and Steve Mnuchin, Trump's treasury secretary." 

Jon Herold [00:39:56] The Mnuchin thing makes no sense because he's Trump's longest tenured. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:40:00] But yeah, actually I don't buy this at all. 

Jon Herold [00:40:02] Yeah. So this is like showing you this is BS. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:40:04] Yeah. I don't buy it. No. 

Jon Herold [00:40:06] Has he ever, like, talked negatively about Mnuchin? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:40:09] Negative. 

Jon Herold [00:40:11] Yeah. Very interesting story. I'm going to have to, like, read up more about this. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:40:14] I immediately have skepticism when Trump says "my hands are tied because my underlings tied them." 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:40:21] Yeah. Don't buy it. Don't buy it at all. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:40:26] Yeah. Another little thing that was just sent to me by my friend Matt Byrum: "Watching a live speech right now. Live Trump speech right now. And he said, quote, 'If we went four and four, we never could have fixed the corruption. We will be able to do more with the way this is happening.'" It's Trump's words from today. 

Jon Herold [00:40:50] It's fascinating. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:40:54] It had to be this way. It had to be this way. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:40:57] It had to be done this way. Also, Q, during the midterms, said that it had to be done... Oh, not during, in the midterms. When he came back, it had to be done this way, Yeah. 

Jon Herold [00:41:07] Q Losers. And that's why. 

Man [00:41:09] So yeah, Mike Pence is an American hero who is playing his role perfectly, and it had to be this way. But my question is, so the night of the election of Speaker McCarthy was very exciting for those of us who stayed up with you guys. A lot of date stamps, time stamps. Do you still believe that this was the way it was supposed to be according to the plan? And if you do, why? What are you seeing now or what do you see in the future that leads you to still believe that way? 

Jon Herold [00:41:43] You're talking about the House of Representatives? 

Man [00:41:46] Like Speaker McCarthy specifically. Like it was clear that at least to those, many of us, that that was Trump's doing or that was what Trump wanted or it happened the way that Trump wanted it. But do you still feel that way? And what's making you think that? 

Jon Herold [00:42:03] Yeah, I mean, I still think it is fascinating. Do you think the Freedom Caucus is the one that's kind of holding that whole thing up, which, by the way, DeSantis is a member of the Freedom Caucus. I mean, what they did over in the House of Representatives and the Speaker vote, all the Q correlation stuff, the fact that Speaker McCarthy… I probably shouldn't be the one to talk about this. I haven't read the drops, but McCarthy reading the Durham boat or talking about the Durham boat thing, that was pretty nuts. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:42:32] I still feel this way. I feel that the way that it had to be this way and I'm liking Speaker McCarthy as Speaker of the House. I think the Republicans are doing a great job in the House so far. The committees are delivering on the promises that they made. They've been passing lots of resolutions that we wanted them to. The rules that they changed were rules that needed to be changed. They've made the house function better. I'm really pleased that I think the Oversight Committee has done a fantastic job. 

[00:42:58] By the way, the Twitter files have been absolutely essential to the Oversight committee and the work they've been doing because they put these people in front of them and have this hearing. And they can just cite sources, they can cite. "Well, we have this email that Elon Musk gave us saying you did these things." They can't hide, in describing these allegations anymore. We have evidence now thanks to Twitter files. So I'm really pleased with the way it's going in the House. I think they're doing excellent work and I think they're part of the exposure-disclosure rollout. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:43:32] Yeah, absolutely.  Another nice $100 TrumpNado4: "Who still thinks Trump is pulling the strings? I for one, do. Guard kicked ass. I took the weekend off to watch. Maybe next one in the Badlands Pass." 

Jon Herold [00:43:51] Good thing he doesn't get to make that decision. But yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:43:56] I think Trump is still pulling the strings, absolutely. Also next, $17. Peggy Carter: "Would you please elaborate on the history of John and Burning Bright's bromance? Seriously, though, how did y'all meet?" 

Jon Herold [00:44:15] BurningBright came groveling to me in an email a long time ago. No, seriously. That's how it started. Like he sent an email of, I think it was like, Righteous Russia, Part One. And I think he sent it to a few people. Desperate for attention. Yeah. And yeah. 

BurningBright [00:44:31] These three guys. 

Jon Herold [00:44:32] I honestly kind of like rejected him. I was like, yeah this is cool, man. Just keep writing. 

BurningBright [00:44:35] He let me down easy. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:44:36] Yeah. 

Jon Herold [00:44:37] Cause I. I don't know. I get a lot of emails from people, and I wasn't going to promote somebody that I didn't know. I don't know. Like, you just kept writing it. Patrick started reading it. 

BurningBright [00:44:45] Yeah. Patrick was patient zero. He started reading things. 

Jon Herold [00:44:49] It's all Patrick's fault. No, but then eventually, I mean, your work was good. 

BurningBright [00:44:54] Jon called me on the phone and confessed his love and need for the brightness. 

Jon Herold [00:44:58] No. 

BurningBright [00:44:59] And then Kate just took my spot on the panel this afternoon. But. You know. It is what it is. 

Jon Herold [00:45:12] Yeah. Anyway, we invited him on to the Power Hour, and it was kind of.  

Patrick Gunnels [00:45:19] Good times were had. And then you showed your face.

BurningBright [00:45:20] He did this to himself.  

Patrick Gunnels [00:45:21] And then. Then here we are. You're in public speaking in public. 

Jon Herold [00:45:26] Escalated quickly. He's only peed his pants once this weekend, so we're very proud of him for that. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:45:32] $5, Asset. You did it again, Jon and Badlands. Well done. Glad I caught this live. Hopefully Burning Bright won't take over lol. 

BurningBright [00:45:46] My bad. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:45:47] $10. Jason B: Fox understands numbers perfectly. They understand that if they call the election for Biden with 1% of the vote in, they can discourage a huge number of Trump voters from voting at all. Snakes! Yes, they do indeed understand the numbers. 

Jon Herold [00:46:03] Let's go to a break and a live question. 

Jon Herold [00:46:05] Yeah, absolutely. And you're right, CannCon's awesome. He's my favorite co-host by far on this, on Badlands. 

CannCon [00:46:11] Documented! Forever! 

Jon Herold [00:46:14] This is true. There it is guys. 

BurningBright [00:46:20] Trump-Pence 2024. 

CannCon [00:46:22] Alpha's my favorite? 

BurningBright [00:46:25] I think l would argue with our favorite. So we actually all discovered that this weekend. 

Jon Herold [00:46:29] What was that? 

BurningBright [00:46:30] I said, I think Alpha is all of our favorites. 

Jon Herold [00:46:32] Yeah Alpha is awesome. 

Off-camera [00:46:33] We learned a lot this weekend. 

Jon Herold [00:46:35] It was a good weekend. 

Justin Deschamps [00:46:37] So we got a VIP question. People want to know who controls Fauci? 

Patrick Gunnels [00:46:43] I guess my guess is we don't know their names. 

Jon Herold [00:46:47] That's a great question. I mean, honestly, I don't even know if it matters. 

BurningBright [00:46:52] I think he's out on his island. Like, I think that I think what's happened with a lot of these people is that they're you know, it's these people that we consider Deep State or whatever they are, they definitely don't close ranks. When one of them is screwed. They sort of tend to just ship them out. And that's sort of what seems like is happening with Fauci. You know, he's part of the club until the heat gets turned up and all of a sudden everybody knew he was up to something weird in Wuhan. Who was it, Cindy McCain? "I mean, we all knew about the island and we all knew about Epstein. But, you know, what were we going to do about it? It's not like we were elected officials” and all that kind of stuff. So I think that's what they do. They sort of just push them out to sea and whatever happens, happens. 

Jon Herold [00:47:39] Kind of like the Mafia. 

BurningBright [00:47:41] Yep. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:47:42] I mean, it is the mafia. And they're a really, really successful mafia. 

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Jon Herold [00:48:21] Yeah, with Daiquiris. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:48:24] We should remember it. We should remember that. 

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[00:48:43] $17. Kurt, another monthly supporter. "I believe a lot of people in our community are going to be surprised at how many people are unexpected White Hats." 

Jon Herold [00:48:54] Might be surprised how many are not White House too. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:48:57] That, too. 

Jon Herold [00:48:58] Let's go to a question here. 

Woman [00:49:02] Quickly. What if Devolution is in play that Pence was not in a position to do his job? 

Patrick Gunnels [00:49:12] Yeah, I think what Pence probably did was exactly what the plan called for. You can't have a V.P. going around sending back electors in this current climate. It might have been the right thing to do constitutionally, but it doesn't matter to me. The thought of the enemy being able to do that is unacceptable. 

Jon Herold [00:49:33] I still and I think you've read through this, too, Kyle, like there's nothing that... I read through that multiple times. He couldn't unilaterally do anything. 

Jon Herold [00:49:41] Yeah, yeah, I know that there's people that disagree with that, but I don't believe he could unilaterally do that. 

Jon Herold [00:49:46] Sit down Con. 

CannCon [00:49:48] No no no no. So hold on, hold on, hold on. So when I say he didn't do his job, I'm not saying to dismiss the electors, the plan to have a ten day dismissal and do the audit, the forensic analysis analysis, then all of a sudden the pipe bombs come into play. I'm not talking about dismissing the electors. That was way beyond his capabilities. But the ten days for forensic audit was disrupted by the pipe bombs and then everything that. 

Jon Herold [00:50:10] Ok, but... 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:50:10] Right. Not like. 

Jon Herold [00:50:11] That. That stuff. That wasn't Pence's fault. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:50:13] It was up to the senators. 

CannCon [00:50:14] Oh yeah. Absolutely. He could have dismissed the call for a continuance. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:50:20] No, he allowed for objections. It was up to the congressmen and women and senators to make those objections and to make those ten days happen. It wasn't up to Pence. 

CannCon [00:50:30] Right. But before...

Jon Herold [00:50:31] With the J6 stuff they stopped doing it. Good. After J6, like after the "insurrection," the people that were lined up to call for that, they didn't do it anymore. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:50:41] They bailed. 

CannCon [00:50:41] Exactly. When they came back, they dismissed it. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:50:43] So it's not on him. 

CannCon [00:50:43] Yes. Okay. I see what you're saying.

Kyle (Just Human) [00:50:44] He opened it up for objections. And they didn't object any more because they're pussies. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:50:50] Allegedly. 

CannCon [00:50:51] All right. We'll leave it at that.

Jon Herold [00:50:54] Jaytriot. Okay, guys, if you weren't here earlier, I, like you, singled out Jaytriot as one of our best supporters. And like, I was like, who can I think of that's going to be like, Oh, we're all family, and, you know, I'll just call on him cause I know he's always here watching and he was taking a freaking nap. 

Jaytriot [00:51:12] I was powering up for the Power Hour. Man, I didn't want to miss it. Too much drinkin' the last two nights and I'm not used to that. 

[00:51:20] So anyways, yesterday one of the things we touched on briefly was, you know, and I'm in full agreement with Kyle that I believe that Trump knew he was going to win in 2016. He knew they were going to steal it in 2020. He said it a million times and he allowed it. And I believe he's showing that same confidence he had in 2016 again, for 2024, it's as if he knows he's going to win. In fact, that quote that Patrick just got from his friend from the speech tonight kind of confirms that. He's... This is the plan. 

[00:51:51] One of the things one of the things seared in my memory from Election Day 2020 is after I voted, I was taking a walk and listening to War Room. And General McInerney was in a full-on panic. And he's talking about Hammer and Scorecard. He said, "We didn't stop it. We didn't stop it." As if "We were supposed to stop it. That was the plan. You know, and it's not happening." And he's freaking out. And I'm starting to panic because I'm going, "Well, Oh, no!" You know, because I've been telling all my friends, "Yeah, Trump knows they're going to steal it. He's not going to let it happen." You know. So anyways, confirmation again, that that's the plan. To let them steal it. 

[00:52:28] So a couple of questions is, do you think that they have an ability to stop the steal with something like Hammer and Scorecard, either by Space Force or NSA or whatever? And have any of you done a deep dig on Hammer and Scorecard itself? Or General McInerney, should I even be worried about what he thinks? Is he in the inner circle or not? Because it feels like there's a lot of people that were in Trump's inner circle that were not clued in to, "hey, we're going to let them steal it." And, you know, I would assume Pence might have known and did his job. Sorry, CannCon, on you know, J6 and the plan all along was to allow it to expose election fraud. 

Jon Herold [00:53:12] Yeah, I do think that they were planning on letting the steal go through. You know, I look back to what I wrote about specifically. In my Part 22 I talk about. Right? The psyops. October 2nd of 2020, about a month before the election. Ezra Cohen-Watnick released that annex to the irregular warfare for the National Defense Strategy. They knew that they were going to be going through this whole period. And so that, I fully believe, that they were going to get to this point on purpose. They were going to allow it to go through. I'm still not 1% sold that they stopped this cheating from happening on the machine stuff in 2016. But I do believe they have the capability. 100%. If you're in control of the military, you have the best technological capability in the world. It's just a matter of opinion. And these guys are probably right on this. Like, I'm probably wrong. They're probably right. I'm just stubborn and I don't want to bet on that. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:54:07] Hammer and Scorecard took on a real ring of truth to me with the army of Con Inc RINO freaks that came out to tell me that I was ridiculous for thinking it was real. It was just coordinated. So there was something real about that. I don't know exactly what it is. It's just a feeling that I get from it. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:54:27] Yeah, I think it's possible that Hammer and Scorecard are how they stopped it in 2016, and maybe they didn't make those same moves in 2020. But 2020 is the standout year where there was so much more opportunity for fraud because of the COVID and the mail- in ballots and all of this. There's just so much more opportunity for fraud that I don't think it's as simple as, 'well, they didn't run some program that would have blocked Hammer and Scorecard.' So I think it's I think it's bigger than that, although I do find it really interesting that McInerney -- I remember that episode and McInerney saying those things that kind of like had this... To me, the way it hit me was like he knew of something from before, but he was expecting it again this time and it didn't happen. But he's not fully informed on it anymore. He was. He was just as caught [off guard] by it, as many of us were. 

BurningBright [00:55:19] I also think that even if you go all the way to that extreme scenario and say that they could have prevented something, they've got some technology, Hammer and Scorecard, whatever, to stop the steal in 2016. Is that actually how we want to win elections? Right? Like do we want to make sure that we've got the right patriots in the military? And as long as we have that, then we can undo this global systemic, globalist systemic cheating apparatus. I don't think that that would be a great plan because you're trying to be... This whole era of election fraud exposure, hopefully, brings us into a lasting era of real, legitimate elections, paper ballots, same-day voting, all that kind of stuff that we want. 

[00:56:03] And let's just again say magically, technology-wise, whatever, that they could stop it. That's not the move. That's not what we want. Because, what if what if the enemy gets control of these same systems? Right? So our votes need to count. But we always talk about the idea of a mandate. You need a public mandate for something. Well, we've never had more of a public mandate for the exposure of election fraud than we did after the damages caused on November 3rd, 2020. So some people say, 'well, why would they allow this to happen?' Well, we're all here talking about election fraud. We weren't doing that in 2016, even though there was probably fraud then, to try to go after that election. 

[00:56:46] You guys want to join the show or, you know, talk about how I talk too much and then you don't say anything? Because that's usually the Jon pattern, right? The question has three words. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:56:54] You woke me. Okay, hang on. 

Man [00:56:56] Quick, quick question. Yep. This is more of a reference with the Q drops. There's a reference about Antifa, maybe BLM or trans coming out in 12 cities. And just to get your opinions, do you think there might be an event where Antifa will come out in maximum force in many Democrat cities? What might happen? Have you guys speculated on that? 

Jon Herold [00:57:22] I still think Antifa has been pretty well mapped out. I mean, I look at Roe v Wade and I look at, who's the guy in Wisconsin? Kyle Rittenhouse. Those two court decisions were like prime-time antifa everywhere cases, and they were like nowhere. Like Roe v Wade especially. That's one like you would expect them to be up in arms all over the place, especially with the narratives that the left is putting forth. And the fact that they weren't tells me they're kind of nothing right now. I don't know. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:57:51] I think they're in Israel now. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:57:54] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of the funding for Antifa has been drained. I kind of think Aantifa's high water mark up, for lack of a better term to describe it, I think like the most active we're going to see them was in the summer riots of 2020. Since then, I ain't really seen that much from here and there, but nothing like summer of 2020, and I don't see the possibility of them coming back like that again. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:58:21] Don't, don't, don't rule it out because 2020, you know, we haven't had the big grand finish of this war. And you got to think that Antifa is going to have some kind of part to play in the thing. I mean, they're right now you've got Yuval Noah Harari deploying Antifa against the pretty normie conservative government of Israel. So I don't know what their next move is. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:58:47] Mossad was deploying them, it seems like. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:58:50] Bashar al-Assad? 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:58:51] No, Mossad, Israeli Intelligence. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:58:53] Yeah okay. 

Jon Herold [00:58:54] Let's get Kate up here for her opinion on that. I'm curious what they're going to do for 2024 this election, because I just can't imagine that the left is going to go into the 2024 election, just like, clean slate, left versus right, let's see what happens, Trump versus Biden. They're going to try to do something to tip the scales in their favor. Like 2020 we had COVID. Are they going to... I mean, they're still kind of trying to keep that narrative alive. Are they going to use that again or are they going to do something else? Like, I don't know. There's no way we go into it heads up, though. 

BurningBright [00:59:26] This is why Kyle's taking some heat, but it's actually pretty funny, when he says that the funniest thing that could happen on the 2024 ticket for the Democrats is Biden being on there again, because they've spent the last two and a half years talking about how he was the worst possible option for them and they really can't have this happen again. You know, they're seeding Gavin Newsom out there and all that kind of stuff. So it would be kind of funny if that's all they've got. 

Kyle (Just Human) [00:59:54] Yeah, I think if Biden is a nominee for the Democrats, it might actually be a bit of a Devolution proof. I really do. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:01] So check it off on your bingo cards, guys. 

Jon Herold [01:00:04] Isn't he announcing this week or something? 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:00:06] He said he said earlier this week that he has every intention, that the plan is for him to run, but he hasn't announced yet. 

Jon Herold [01:00:14] Yeah, I think I saw that he's going to announce this week. But maybe I'm wrong. 

Justin Deschamps [01:00:18] We got a VIP question here. Can we trust Senator Cruz? 

Jon Herold [01:00:24] But I think so. 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:00:27] To a certain extent. 

Jon Herold [01:00:29] Can you trust anybody though, really? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:30] Can you trust anybody? And I'm sure the answer to this question is yes in limited cases. But I think the biggest check mark against someone's trustworthiness is having won the nomination of a major political party in the United States. That's big. How did you get past that rigged election? Because in Texas, for example, there are no primaries that are on the up and up. They're all rigged. So, you know, Ted Cruz won the rigged primary more than once. So the answer to that question for me is, no, I don't. He's owned by somebody. 

Off-camera [01:01:09] Because his wife. You know his wife is one of the 20 in the Council On Foreign Relations.

Jon Herold [01:01:16] Of course. 

BurningBright [01:01:17] He's also got a habit of making, you know, these viral, lion Ted Cruz, you know, rants against Ocasio-Cortez and fire and brimstone. And the bill comes across his desk and he signs it like a good little RINO. And so sometimes there's some of that stuff where he makes a lot of headlines and he says all the right things and then a whole lot of smoke and nothing really doing at the end of the day, so. 

Man [01:01:46] Yeah to follow up on your scoffing at Biden to be the nominee, 25th Amendment is still kind of in play. Trump has talked about that. I'm interested in what your take is on how that would affect devolution and why did Trump already kind of embrace the 47 moniker if 25th Amendment takes Biden out and there's a pseudo president in between? 

Jon Herold [01:02:16] Yeah, I don't know. I've still been waiting for people to, or the 25th Amendment to be brought forth. A while ago I speculated that maybe Trump 25th'd himself for Pence, and that's when they implemented devolution. But I don't know, maybe that's something we don't see. Maybe we do. I don't know. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:02:30] Your guess is as good as mine on that one. That's a great point, though. 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:02:34] If I remember correctly, Trump said that the 25th Amendment will come back to haunt Biden. And I take that as it's going to be in the air. It's going to be this possibility. It's going to be this threat like, it's going to haunt him, but it's not going to be actual. It would be interesting if, during the primary season, Democrats start floating that around to try and get him out so they can get a nominee that they want in. Because Biden is not who the Deep State would want to be the Democrat candidates. 

Jon Herold [01:03:06] An interesting point. That's an interesting point. Like, if Biden ends up winning the nomination, they try to take him out to the 25th because they don't want him in there. But he is. 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:03:15] I really think that the Democrats’ dream ticket for 2024 is Clinton-Newsom. I think that if they were really in control, that's what they would do. Anyway. 

BurningBright [01:03:29] Maybe Big Mike. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:03:30] Terrifying! 

BurningBright [01:03:30] Another one. 

Jon Herold [01:03:32] We get some more Rumble rants we got to read through. We got a lot of Rumble rants. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:03:34] Sure, sure do. Wow. 

[01:03:37] $100. Moe1959. "Happy to see you all. Great panels so far. Wish we were there. Jon, bring your bad asses to Georgia, please! Carry on, men.". 

[01:03:48] Thank you so much, Moe. 

[01:03:50] $17. Kurt "Also believe that Trump's comment to Flynn was a Q proof.". 

[01:03:57] Muy Importante. I just wanna make sure I got. I got that one. Yeah, there's one coming up that's going to explain that. 

[01:04:02] $1. This is the one. From Marissa. "Q Post 4762. 'Not long now.' Exact words said by Trump about Flynn last night." 

Jon Herold [01:04:15] That was last night? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:04:17] I don't know what to say about that. 

[01:04:19] $20 from KD Wingrove: "The COVID narrative is shifting. Do you think this is shifting to the left so the left can use the COVID vaccine issues against Trump in the run up to the election?" 

[01:04:33] Fair question. They're trying right now to do that with DeSantis. And it's not effective at all because DeSantis was every bit the vaccine salesman and more than Trump was. 

Jon Herold [01:04:45] I think it's interesting that we have RFK as the Democratic candidate because, talk about somebody to blow up the COVID narratives for the Democrats. I mean… 

BurningBright [01:04:54] Yeah, that's why some people look at, oh, is it you know, is there some sort of alliance between Kennedy and Trump? Who knows what's going on with this stuff? But if you look at the the just effects of it, I sort of could envision a pseudo Bernie Sanders situation going on leading into 2024, into the primaries, where you've got this legacy Kennedy, who maybe is not a Republican, is not a Trump guy, but he's going to be running on those tickets and getting into that primary, getting on to the debate stage and blowing up the entire COVID narrative and that entire media industrial complex of the left is going to have to attack and demonize a legacy Kennedy. So they're just, they're trapped into this sort of, this no win situation. And then in terms of Trump or, you know, the COVID narrative, I think they will try to turn that against him. They're already trying to. But again, that's where Fauci comes in. That's where it that's why he put they put him. 

Jon Herold [01:05:48] You know, he's attacking Trump more about the COVID narrative than anybody? It's frickin’ Con Inc. It's not the left. It's these establishment conservative Republicans who want DeSantis over Trump. 

BurningBright [01:05:59] Daily Wire. 

Jon Herold [01:06:00] Ben Shapiro. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:06:02] It's the Will Chamberlains and the Kurt Schlichters of the world. 

[01:06:07] $17 Snowcat Operator: Trump and Brian Cates both had pizza last night. Devolution proof hashtag pizza late. That's a lovely Dadaist Rumble rant. 

[01:06:19] $5 The Alpha Warrior Show. "Sources say Jon, a.k.a. Patel Patriot, was drinking a Bud Light with his pinky out." 

BurningBright [01:06:30] Chris Paul had one. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:06:30] "...at a Badlands dinner last night. Love Alpha and CannCon." 

Jon Herold [01:06:35] From former Badlander, Alpha Warrior. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:06:39] Hey, $100 from Patriot Donnie. "Only Trump knows who his VP will be. I trust Trump.". 

[01:06:49] I do as well. Thank you very much for that lovely rant. 

[01:06:52] $17 Q Alerts. "Hello. The Chris Miller to Pence video told me everything I needed to know, not to mention the 17 flags when Trump left DC. Great job guys. Wish I could be there with you all. MAGA." 

[01:07:08] Wish you could too. 

Jon Herold [01:07:09] Q Alerts is awesome. By the way. Great guy.

Patrick Gunnels [01:07:11] He made the app, right? 

Jon Herold [01:07:13] Yeah. That's that's Q I think isn't it? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:07:17] The app guys, I've got it on my phone even today. It's freaking amazing. 

Jon Herold [01:07:21] Let's go to a live question. 

Man [01:07:24] So, as much as I hate Antifa and I want them to go away, how do we get rid of them or think that they're going to go away when you have all these Soros-backedDAs still spread throughout the country? 

Jon Herold [01:07:39] I love it when you guys answer. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:07:40] I think. I think if. I think they need to stop receiving their paychecks. And that's going to involve… 

Jon Herold [01:07:48] Is Soros still even, like, around? Like this. Like, I'm not saying, like, alive. Like, how is he on the streets and not in jail? Like, has he not committed enough crimes yet to be put behind bars? 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:08:01] So I'm about to trigger some people. So. So there's this new law group that's been started that is specifically targeting Soros-backed DA's across the country and finding candidates to run against them. And one of the people in it is the attorney general of Virginia. And someone who joined it last week is former Attorney General Bill Barr. 

Jon Herold [01:08:28] And there we go. 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:08:30] I think Bill Barr is a white hat. And I love. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:08:32] Duh. 

Jon Herold [01:08:33] I think we all do on this panel. 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:08:34] And I'm really looking forward to Bill Barr taking on these Soros DAs. 

Jon Herold [01:08:39] Yeah, I forgot about that, it's huge. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:08:41] But every now and then, every now and then I go back, just for fun, and watch Bill Barr in Congress cackling at these nonentities, questioning him. And it just gives me warm fuzzies every time. 

Jon Herold [01:08:58] Another live question. 

Woman [01:09:00] Hi, mine, is more of a kind of interesting fact than a question. A couple recently moved to the retirement community I live in, and we asked, what did you do when you lived in D.C.? And he said, I was actually a professional chauffeur. I chauffeured people around D.C., dignitaries and whatnot for over 30 years. And I said, what did they talk about in the back of, you know, you'd hear the people talking in the back of the car. And he said almost every day the conversation is, "What stupid thing did Biden do today?" 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:30] Awesome. 

Jon Herold [01:09:31] Awesome. Thank you. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:34] We have Barry 1968. Just became a monthly supporter. Thank you for that. Barry 1968 $20. "Merrick Garland identified as official misleading Congress in Hunter Biden Tax probe.". 

[01:09:48] Yeah, he's been... He lies to Congress all the time. It's frickin’ nuts. 

Jon Herold [01:09:53] Is that like an official? Like something happened? I haven't seen any of  that. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:57] My source is Barry 1968, who is also a monthly supporter. So I mean. 

Jon Herold [01:10:02] A little more credibility. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:10:04] $1. Ghost of Based Patrick Henry. Patrick, he said the exact same thing about four and four. Trump said the exact same thing four and four at the NRA speech. 

Jon Herold [01:10:17] That's right. Pence got booed there, but that's the one where Trump said he was like a nice guy. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:10:20] Yep. 

[01:10:21] $17. GARRETT OU. "Love you guys. Thanks for what you do. You'll never know how much you mean to some of us surrounded by sheeple who think we're crazy. You've kept us all in the fight. Where we go one, we go, all of you. 

[01:10:37] Thank you for that. 

[01:10:41] $10 Cosmic Thing. "With deep fake, CGI, mask technology, etc., can we really believe anything we see?". 

[01:10:50] No! That's my answer to that. 

[01:10:54] And then we have $17. Tattooed Teacher. "This weekend has been such a success. My best to Badlands Media.". 

[01:11:01] My best. Right back to you. 

[01:11:04] $17 Neves Gal. "Wish I could have been there with you. All great panels. Neves." 

[01:11:09] Thank you. 

[01:11:10] $17. Oh, excellent. Yeah. TX2013. "Thanks for this weekend. Believe that Trump is in control. I believe in Trump's plan. God bless you all." Thank you so much for that. 

[01:11:22] $10 LP Cini. "Him to believe." 

Man [01:11:29] Okay. Let me explain.

Jon Herold [01:11:30] Let's. 

Justin Deschamps [01:11:31] But can you come back here so people can hear you? 

Woman [01:11:38] CannCon. You guys started to CannCon Devolution. Did you ever convince him, and if you didn't convince him, what will it take for him to be convinced? 

Jon Herold [01:11:45] I don't know. CannCon. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:11:46] Okay. 

Jon Herold [01:11:46] CannCon, get on the mic, man.

Patrick Gunnels [01:11:47] We haven't had the CannCon red pill moment. 

BurningBright [01:11:49] CannCon's a lost cause. He still likes Disney Star Wars? We're working on him. 

Jon Herold [01:11:54] CannCon, get on the mike! 

BurningBright [01:11:57] We've had several interventions. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:12:02] Why is everybody beating up on CannCon today? 

[01:12:03] All right.  $117. Big Hair. "Thank you for everything. All the Badlands contributors do. And thank you, Jon and Kate, for making this platform." 

[01:12:15] Yes. Thank you, Jon and Kate.  

Jon Herold [01:12:18] Let's  go to Taylor Friend. She's been standing back there. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:12:20] What's up bro? 

Jon Herold [01:12:20] She's been standing too long. 

Man [01:12:21] Hello. So I just saw this clip a couple of days ago, and it was Rogan and Eric Weinstein. I know you all said that you would rather have Pence and Trump, but he described this two dark horse plan, where… I dunno, have you guys heard of that? 

Jon Herold [01:12:38] I haven't. 

Man [01:12:39] Where he said that the plan is to have a center right candidate and a center left candidate and pair them up as president and vice president, because I don't think Biden can outdo Kennedy whatsoever. So the plan is to run them, like, opposing and then flip once Trump’s time is done, and have Kennedy run for president and then get a center right new candidate to run as vice. And it's kind of interesting because along with that, that's like the old constitutional way of how they would pick a vice president. And then I keep hearing about putting the appointee status of senators back in the state legislators' control. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:13:27] Repeal the 17th Amendment. I'm 100% in favor. The state governments lack a voice in Washington. Was that  Eric Weinstein, like Bret Weinstein's brother? 

Man [01:13:38] Yeah, it was Eric Weinstein. He said there's this two dark horse plan where they want to. And to me that would seem like the best way to unite the country is to get center right and. Center left. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:13:47] It is very true. There is a portion of the country that will never, ever, ever get behind Donald Trump. They're too triggered by him. 

Jon Herold [01:13:56] People keep talking about, you know what if Kennedy comes out as Trump's vice president. Just I don't. I'm just going to. Just a thought experiment. What if Trump would go be his vice president? I just want to see your reaction. No, I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that stuff. Yeah, I don't buy it. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:14:21] Robert F Kennedy is like he's been on our side for a long time. So I don't... You can call him a Democrat all you want, but the left won't accept him. That's just my opinion. They think of him as a hardcore right winger. 

Jon Herold [01:14:37] And I just want to get away from the legacy political families. I'm just. Nothing against him personally. I have no real issue with him. I don't see anything like [garbled] him that much. I just want to get away from the political families. I don't want another Bush. I don't want another Clinton. I don't want another Obama. I don't want another Kennedy. I don't even want another Trump unless it's Donald. That's it. 

BurningBright [01:15:01] That's why I look at somebody like Kennedy almost as like, what? What's the ideal scenario? People are asking us about the ideal scenario for 2024? What's the ideal scenario for somebody like Kennedy and that legacy name that you mentioned, It has power. I grew up in the Boston area and I always talk about how when you get out of the universities and the medical industry, Boston doesn't seem liberal. Bostonians don't grow up that way. But there's sort of this legacy Kennedy Democrat thing baked into the Northeast U.S.. That name, and especially not like random Kennedys who are the child of people who kill their girlfriends, “totally accidentally.” 

[01:15:36] But the actual son of RFK, the nephew of JFK, that's somebody who has, I think, a power that we might underestimate in terms of just attracting attention. And that attention, I think, will be a net negative for the Democrat Party. So I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I sort of don't think he's going to end up running with Trump or anything like that, but I don't think it's a good thing. I think that this is [lame]. 

Jon Herold [01:16:01] Thank you, Mel. Hey, Benson, Honey Farms. 

Justin Deschamps [01:16:05] Give it up. 

Jon Herold [01:16:06] Stand up, Mel. In the house. Benson Honey Farms. Thank you. 

BurningBright [01:16:13] Again, I think that I think that Kennedy could be. He's going to be a net negative. I just can't see any scenario where they come out. They come out looking good, however they're going to deal with him. They can't give him a platform, but he doesn't need a platform because he's a Kennedy, so it doesn't look like it's a good move. 

[01:16:30] I also, I know this is very reductive, and people maybe say it all the time, but as Jon just talked about with even legacy families look at Democrat versus Republican, Donald Trump was a Democrat his entire life until he registered as a Republican and ran for president. So it seems like all of us forgot that. And to me, the reason Trump uses this America first terminology and MAGA and everything, he doesn't describe himself these days as a Republican and Republicanism is what we need. You know, I think it's... Getting away from legacy families is a big deal. But I also think getting away from legacy parties, hopefully, I think that's probably a much longer term thing. But if Kennedy gets us one step closer to that and you've got Trump versus Kennedy as some kind of national debate, I think that would be a healthy debate. I don't think Kennedy would have any chance against Trump. And again, neither of those guys are establishment picks, which is a positive. 

Justin Deschamps [01:17:24] Live question. 

Man [01:17:25] To continue on with BB's comment there about Kennedy. So Chris Paul has encouraged us to watch the Kennedy speech at Hillsdale College. If you've not watched it, I encourage you to watch it tomorrow over coffee. It's phenomenal and then share it. It's a red pill. It's a huge red pill. So I think Kennedy plays a big [role]. I was going to bring it up when we talked about the red pill session earlier today. But I think Kennedy plays a big role, especially with that speech and redpilling some asleep people. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:17:56] I will check it out tonight. 

Jon Herold [01:17:59] No you won't. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:17:59] No, I'm going to watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I'll check it out tomorrow. I will. 

BurningBright [01:18:05] Well, remember Bernie Sanders? I mean, he's not a guy everybody loves here, but Trump used him. Trump used Bernie Sanders to attack the Democrat Party. Right. He kept saying they stole it from Bernie. They stole it from Bernie. Imagine him doing that again. But with a Kennedy, that could be very effective. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:18:24] $20. Ready To Rumble, Chris. "So great to see all my faves together. Just came from an event tonight in Des Moines and spoke but the reception was weak. Vivek stole the show from all the other candidates. Chris [garbled] 17.". 

[01:18:44] All right. Thanks, Chris. Awesome. 

[01:18:47] $20 Sunny Peach. "I hope the next GART is between my traveling contracts so I can attend. Sigh.". 

[01:18:56] Well, I hope it is too. Sunny Peach. 

[01:18:59] $50 Counterinsurgent. "Consider that Antifa members massively identify as other gendered. They're waiting for the transgender George Floyd event.". 

[01:19:12] Thank you very much, Counterinsurgent. 

[01:19:14] And then $20 Ready to Rumble Chris again. "Same thing, except no 17 at the end. Just got home from Des Moines. Pence. Pence's response was weak. Many candidates spoke, but Vivek stole the show. Chris Ranney." 

[01:19:30] Chris, you are very energized by this Vivek character. I need to earn more. 

[01:19:36] $50. A.J. Blue. "CannCon might need a coffee enema.". 

[01:19:41] I don't know... what? 

Jon Herold [01:19:43] I agree with that. I think he does. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:19:46] These are just things people put in my mouth. CannCon. 

Justin Deschamps [01:19:51] Come see me after the event. CannCon. We'll get through anything. 

Jon Herold [01:19:53] And we can blame that on Justin a little bit. He's the one who brought that up originally. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:19:56] Damn, damn, damn straight. Okay. 

BurningBright [01:19:59] More like Can't Con. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:20:03] $20. Veruca. "Elon Musk today said checkmate. Pretty fantastic. Glad I caught this live. God bless everyone.". 

[01:20:12] Yeah, I don't know why he said 'checkmate.' That was so weird. It was just bam, checkmate. He's, other than Trump, he's the best tweeter of all time. In my opinion. He's almost as good at  tweeting as Trump is. 

Jon Herold [01:20:24] I didn't see. I've been so unplugged these last few days. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:20:26] So it's been kind of, you know, a nice break from the infowar. 

[01:20:30] $10 Jason B. "Bush W flipped. Explains envelopes at Bush senior's funeral. Hunter flipped. Brandon, Joe Biden, flipped. 

Jon Herold [01:20:43] We should've given out envelopes here. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:20:45] "... all working for white hats. That's what I see as part of devolution: irregular warfare.". 

[01:20:51] I believe that's Jason Beamish. So Beamish metal works, guys, by the way, check it out. Let's see here. 

Jon Herold [01:20:58] Do you have any more questions?   

Patrick Gunnels [01:21:01] Rumble rants are coming in fast and furious. 

Jon Herold [01:21:03] Thank you for your Rumble rants, everybody, by the way. . 

Justin Deschamps [01:21:06] We have one here. "Did you see the Trump Kennedy radio announcement from the Capitol?". 

Patrick Gunnels [01:21:11] No. 

Justin Deschamps [01:21:12] I don't know what that is, so. 

Jon Herold [01:21:13] Do we know that was about? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:21:14] I'm excited already. I'd love to see Trump and Kennedy team up because, come on, we know that Trump was huge friends with JFK Jr. 

Jon Herold [01:21:23] Isn't it true that Trump was going to have Kennedy be his vaccine or his COVID response guy? Like, I've heard rumors. I don't know if it's true either, but okay, so never mind. Nobody knows. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:21:38] I'm loving these Rumble rants, guys. I like money. 

[01:21:42] Pissed America. $50. "All of the content creators did an amazing job this weekend. Keep up the good work. Been watching [by video] all weekend. Is merch available yet?". 

[01:21:51] John is it? 

Jon Herold [01:21:52] It's here. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:21:53] Hot dog. 

[01:21:56] And yeah, it is on the website, BadlandsMedia dot TV. Do we have anybody wearing the merch right now? Anybody? Burning Bright is? Stand up. Nah, not Burning Bright. Somebody else better looking,  wanna come up here?  CannCon? Can you pan the audience, Chris? If you're wearing some merch, stand up and show it off. There you go. Look at that. Look at all these good looking people. 

Justin Deschamps [01:22:17] 100 percent. 

Jon Herold [01:22:18] There we go. Badlands Media dot TV. Thank you, everybody. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:22:24] $1 Marissa. "The Q post I mentioned had three stars. Three star general.". 

[01:22:29] That post is good. What is it called? Not long now. I don't know what he means by that, but I hope it's not long now. 

[01:22:35] $51. Shelley SATX. "I'm coming to the next one. I'm so sorry I wasn't there in person.". 

[01:22:42] Your $51 makes up for it. Thank you so much. 

[01:22:48] $10. Kathy De Corea. "I love your format.". 

[01:22:52] I  love your format right back.

Jon Herold [01:22:53] We should let somebody else read. 

Justin Deschamps [01:22:57] G-rated, G-rated! 

Patrick Gunnels [01:22:58] Guys you’ve got to understand, it's late at night. My brain starts to shut down. 

BurningBright [01:23:01] Patrick has taken 37 naps. I've got a new working conspiracy. I've never met Patrick in person. And I was saying to somebody earlier that every single time I have seen him the last three days, he informs me that he has just returned from a nap. I don't understand how that's possible. 

Jon Herold [01:23:18] What are you actually doing in your napping? Are you watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:23:22] Well, yeah. 

BurningBright [01:23:24] Well, his lady friend is in the room with him, I think, who he is getting married to this year. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:23:29] Yes, Yes. 

BurningBright [01:23:29] Congratulations. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:23:30] Ashley. 

BurningBright [01:23:31] Patrick, Patrick and Ashley. 

Jon Herold [01:23:36] Congratulations. That's why he's so excited about these Rumble rants, he has a wedding coming up. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:23:40] I know. 

BurningBright [01:23:41] The wedding fund. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:23:43] Up $5 Max Truther. "RFK Jr will be used to help Trump get elected one way or another. By the way, what are you boys drinking tonight?". 

[01:23:53] Andy5. "1792 bourbon. Cheers."

[01:23:58] What are you drinking? 

BurningBright [01:23:58] Whatever Moe Benson handed us. 

Jon Herold [01:24:01] This is old fashioned. That's kind of my drink. 

BurningBright [01:24:04] Replete with roofies, honey flavored roofies. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:24:08] Hey. Hey, guys. 

Jon Herold [01:24:09] Inappropriate Burning Bright. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:24:11] $200. K.T. Shrant. "Don't you think Badlands Media is the best?"  

Jon Herold [01:24:19] K.T.  Shrant is in the house right now. Right over there. She's our accountant. Is that. Is that a tax deductible donation? Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:24:30] $20. Salty Zero. "You know what it doesn't say in the Constitution? Give up your rights to appease some crybaby liberals." 

[01:24:46] Lane Chane is now a monthly supporter. Awesome. And Lane Chane, also a $5 rumble rant. "Thank you all for what you do.". 

[01:24:55] $17. Fernie 65. "Jon, something to consider or have a vote there about this. Jon, free yourself on Badlands Daily News and let Chris Paul take your spot. Take this time to grow Badlands Media. I don't endorse that in any way. 

BurningBright [01:25:13] Motion to the floor. 

Jon Herold [01:25:14] I want to know I CannCon  has to say about that. 

BurningBright [01:25:17] All in favor? 

Jon Herold [01:25:21] Read it again. Look, CannCon wasn't paying attention. 

[01:25:23] "Oh, Jon. Something to consider. Have a vote there about this. Free yourself, Jon. Free yourself on Badlands Daily News. Have Chris Paul take your spot. Take this time to grow Badlands Media." 

Man [01:25:37] [inaudible] 

Jon Herold [01:25:40] Where is Chris Paul? 

BurningBright [01:25:42] He left. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:25:43] Of course he did. 

Jon Herold [01:25:45] Answer this question, man. Okay thanks. You hear that, Chris Paul? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:25:48] Yeah. Chris Paul. 

Jon Herold [01:25:49] Suck it. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:25:52] $20. MLl Rollo. "Great weekend with all of you. Wish I would have come. Jon, you saved me from all the crazies out there. Thanks for what you do.". 

[01:26:02] Thank you so much. $17.  Theresa Pagano. "Zach is definitely eye candy.". 

[01:26:10] Thanks, guys. 

BurningBright [01:26:12] I agree. 

Jon Herold [01:26:13] You should see how dark he is in person. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:26:15] I know that it is one killer tan. He's like Miami Vice. 

Jon Herold [01:26:19] He is Miami Vice. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:26:21] $5. Jessica B. "Thank you for airing this. Wish I was there. Do you think that RFK Jr would be playing a role with no real expectation to win just to red pill more Dems? Maybe for a Trump admin cabinet spot?". 

[01:26:35] Your guess is as good as mine where that's concerned. My personal opinion about RFK Jr is that he's got, like, permanent laryngitis. It doesn't seem that conducive to a job that requires you to talk all the time. So you know… 

[01:26:47] $5 Cosmic Thing. "Has anyone ever figured out the envelopes given out at the funeral?" 

BurningBright [01:26:54] Nope. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:26:54] No idea. 

Jon Herold [01:26:56] And that's why you can't make any assumptions on it. Like, you can't say that's a reason he's a bad guy because he got an envelope. Because you have no idea what's in them. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:27:06] $17. Kurt. "I usually give you guys a hard time. I just want to say I appreciate and respect the work you put into Badlands.". 

[01:27:12] Thank you so much. Boom Diggity. $117. "Question for Jon: Why are you gay?" No wait. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.  I got to say it with an African accent. "Why are you gay?" 

Jon Herold [01:27:28] Why are you gay? I'll allow it because he gave $117. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:27:32] Damn right!  For 117 bucks,  you can call me anything you want. 

BurningBright [01:27:37] He's never once answered the question, by the way. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:27:42] $20. J Vines 17. "Panel fight live for my $20." 

Jon Herold [01:27:49] Panel fight? 

BurningBright [01:27:50] Accepted! 

Patrick Gunnels [01:27:51] Of course you'd, accept it. 

BurningBright [01:27:53] Skinny little calves. 

Jon Herold [01:27:54] This is our last Rumble rant. You guys should get in line because we'll take a few questions and probably start to wrap up. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:28:01] $5. Peter 13 377 Q. "Rumor: next GART is in central California."  

BurningBright [01:28:14] Skid Row, San Francisco. 

Jon Herold [01:28:15] To Be Determined.  I think that's all of them.  

Patrick Gunnels [01:28:19] All right. That's all the Rumble rants. 

Jon Herold [01:28:20] That's all the Rumble rants. Thank you, everybody. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:28:22] Thank you for that. 

Jon Herold [01:28:23] Are there any more questions? Yes, [unintelligible mumbling] I don't remember what I'm supposed to do. Or. 

Man [01:28:35] Burning Bright needs to look underneath the seat and read what it says. He's got an envelope.

Jon Herold [01:28:41] Okay. I had nothing to do with this, whatever it is. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:28:47] What's going on? Okay. Oh, cool. It's a shoe box. 

Kyle (Just Human) [01:28:56] He wants you to read it. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:28:58] Oh, sweet. Okay. 

BurningBright [01:29:02] To Mrs. Bright from Dak 8869. Parentheses, not BB. Slipper Gate. This was not sponsored by Mike Lindell, but we'll give them props anyway. For those who don't know, I very publicly received slippers from Mike Lindell directly, I believe. I don't think anybody else got them. I think it was a special gift to me and I kept them for myself, which caused quite a controversy and started the Mrs. Bright Army. So Dak is the general. I don't think they're going to fit in the luggage, though, so... 

Jon Herold [01:29:45]  I think I'm gonna call Mike and ask if he sent them to you directly. Cause I don't. I don't believe you for a second. No, but you can get your slippers at My Pillow dot com and use the promo code BADLANDS. How many of you guys have used your promo code BADLANDS on my pillow? Look at that. That's awesome. Thank you. 

Man [01:30:02] Like 15 times. 

Jon Herold [01:30:05] Thank you. Any other questions, guys? Otherwise, we have a whole bunch of people here we want to celebrate with. This is our last night here.  It's been great. And you guys are awesome. We can't thank you enough for your support. Oh, the Monopoly money. Is GMoney here? Or... Sean's here. Sean, do you want to do it now, or do you wanna do it in the morning? How many of you have been gathering your...? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:30:28] In the morning? 

Patrick Gunnels [01:30:30] How many of you have been trying to get your Monopoly money? 

BurningBright [01:30:33] We should do it tomorrow.  People can use tonight to... 

Jon Herold [01:30:37] Okay. We are going to pass out more tonight. Are you okay with that, Sean? Do in the morning? Okay. Because I don't feel like people have been taking this seriously enough. I really don't. 

BurningBright [01:30:47] Remember. Badland speakers also have some of that money. 

Jon Herold [01:30:51] There's a prize. Like, I don't know. I feel like people don't care about prizes anymore. 

BurningBright [01:30:55] Yeah, right. Something. Awesome. 

Jon Herold [01:30:59] It's a sur-prize. 

BurningBright [01:31:02] One pair of My Pillow slippers will be given to whoever has the most. Tomorrow. If it's Mrs. Brite, it'll be Mrs. Bright. 

Jon Herold [01:31:17] But no, we want to thank everybody for being here. We want to thank everybody for tuning in live. Another question? Okay. 

Man [01:31:23] Not really a question, but more of a comment. It was on my bucket list to hear Patrick speak and read the quotes in person. So that's awesome. And also, I heard there was an arm wrestling competition for Monopoly money and I wasn't in here. So please, if you want to do that, go again, please. 

BurningBright [01:31:45] You definitely want to arm wrestle a guy named Silverback who also looks like one. 

Justin Deschamps [01:31:51] Are you going to announce, BB? 

Jon Herold [01:31:52]  I'll pass. For those. Can you, like, put the camera? He's got the biggest biceps I've ever seen in my life. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:32:03] Like ever like 25 inches or some shit. 

BurningBright [01:32:06] We need to audit those biceps. 

Jon Herold [01:32:11] Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, any other comments or questions, guys? Although we're going to wrap up now. Thank you, everybody, for being here. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. This has been awesome. We will see you at the next great American Restoration tour. Thank you, everybody.