Dr. Lee Merritt Joins

Reading Epic Threads

Patrick Gunnels [00:15:25] Greetings, my dear friends and welcome to yet another reading Epic Threads live stream. I'm your host Patrick Gunnels joining you from Houston, Texas, October 18th, 2022 at 8:41 a.m. Central Daylight Time. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:15:38] I've got a special show for you today. I was joined yesterday for a long-form interview with Dr. Lee Merritt, who will be joining us and speaking at Thread Fest. So you're going to want to check that out. It's going to be a fun interview. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:15:55] She's got some really great insights on what COVID was, what's in the jabs, what we can do to fight back, how we can better take care of our health. All the red pills that all of us have just been getting hit with left and right. So definitely check that out. And remember, she's going to be at Thread Fest. So, link in the description. Very first one. You're going to want to go to that link and get yourself your challenge coin. "Only at the precipice people find the will to change." "The globalists can all go to hell. I have gone to Texas." So you can get your in-person tickets. Thread Fest is November 11th through the 14th, at the gorgeous Southlake Hilton resort, Dallas, Texas. Get your live stream tickets or you can get your coin, too. So definitely check that out. 

VaguelyAnon on City Barons

Patrick Gunnels [00:16:53] I'm going to read you a quick email from Vaguely Anon. And this is interesting to me as a Houstonian. And I want you to just try to kind of extrapolate this out to where you live and the rich, rich people, the rich barons of your areas. So this is Houston specific, but it really applies everywhere. 

[00:17:21] "While browsing around various Astrodome/Houston history and being aware that some names like Hofheinz —and this is not Don Huffines, the candidate for governor, But Roy, the judge, Hofheinz, former "businessman," mayor of Houston and County judge of Harris County from the 1930s to the 1970s— are particularly German. I noticed some funny details about the man who helped build Harris County, also known as Greater Houston, Texas, into what it is today. First, Hofheinz' father died in a mysterious accident in his youth. He had been in the laundromat business, famous for being an organized crime. Have other famous and powerful people had close family members die under mysterious circumstances right before their meteoric rise to power?” 

Patrick Gunnels Spoiler alert: yes. 

[00:18:32] “Hofheinz worked for LBJ at age 16 before being installed, “installected,” right out of law school, as Harris County judge, much like Lina Hidalgo at the unusually young age, in this case of 23. A man who was attempting to introduce evidence of crimes on LBJ once committed suicide in his field by shooting himself seven times in the stomach with a pump action 22 rifle. It's sad how people get so depressed after calling the FBI to report Democrat crimes. Somehow, the entire publicly-financed Astro complex was owned by him and was inherited by his heirs, but the debt was actually accidentally left bonded to the public. The New York Times obituary for Hofheinz praised his "business" acumen. Hofheinz was chided as ruling the county in a baronic style and having the decorative tastes of early King Farouk. Roy lived in a house called Huckster House. King Farouk left behind an impressive collection of pornography when he fled Egypt. Speaking of weird rooms. Has anyone ever followed up with Room 322 at the ZaZa Hotel in Houston? Different Strokes for different folks, I guess.” 

[00:20:11] “Relatively conservative, Harris County has, oddly, voted consistently Democrat since the 1950s, focusing on putting Republicans into less influential areas, while reserving powerful position for Democrats, almost certainly due to 75 collective years of indomitable disillusionment with the offered candidates and definitely not election fraud.” 

[00:20:40] “He modeled the upper decks and rounded shape of the Astrodome —novel concepts at the time— on the Roman Coliseum, where the nobility sat as the peasants or inferior people of landed life and labor came to cheer the spectacles below, monied City Masters gaslightingly looking down upon the people who produce their food, not being a new thing under the sun. Hofheinz' quarters in the Astrodome were called the Celestial Suites and were once oddly among the most expensive hotels in the world and were located right next to a children's amusement park, and still exist in the Crowne Plaza Hotel right next to Reliant Stadium. The Astro domain, Astrodome, Astro Hall, Astroworld, was financed by Ford. Hofheinz' son was a Rhodes scholar who became professor of government at Harvard, where his specialty was study of the Chinese communist revolution. Cecil Rhodes was a rabid British nationalist whose goal in life was to get the United States back under British control. Do we know any other famous Rhodes Scholars? But the thing that really caught my eye was the cigar brand he consumed (not smoked). Some funny named brand called Sant Soucy Perfecto. For those of you who don't know, “Sant, Soucy” is the name of Frederick the Great's famous hideaway, where he did all of his famous partying. And there was, of course, a small comma between Sant and Soucy.” 

[00:22:46] There was one more comment that Vaguely Anon made. I'm going to make sure I can find it. Sorry. One second. One more thing he said that ... 

[00:23:04] “And then Hofheinz is the guy that a few people, including myself, thought that Don Huffines might have been related to when I first mentioned him. Still not convinced he's not. Like Owen Benjamin says, I'm not a white supremacist, I am a height supremacist. Trust no man under five six haha. I used to really like Roy Huffines when I was younger. I started to figure out he was probably Cabal, definitely socialist, a few years ago, but I still liked what he did. This morning was very eye opening for me when I saw things in that list and I couldn't have seen it without the things we've been going over. Say, has anyone figured out how a 27-year-old immigrant from Colombia unseated a long-time incumbent that everyone was happy with, to be put in charge of a county with a severe human and drug trafficking problem? Probably just another coincidence.”

Patrick Gunnels He is, of course, referring to Lina Hidalgo, the county judge of Harris County, a transparently obvious criminal.

Interview with Dr. Lee Merritt

Patrick Gunnels [00:24:15] Now I invite you all to enjoy my interview with the illustrious Dr. Lee Merritt. She is absolutely brilliant. Enjoy. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:24:28] Greetings my dear friends, and welcome to a Reading Epic Interviews thread. I am joined by the inimitable Lee Merritt, M.D., one of my co-travelers on this red pill journey that we've been going on for God knows how long at this point. So really, I don't think there's much by way of introduction, we all know each other at this point. Dr. Merritt, you want to talk about some really great stuff today, and I know that when we get started, we don't stop. So I'd like to get straight into the information you want to talk about. How does that sound? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:25:01] Sounds good. This can be done actually, for me it is going to be done shortly. But because I am really pumped about this, Patrick, I've... You know, at some point everything is revealed. All that is hidden will be revealed. I think it's happening. I think we're figuring this out. And I love the way it's happened. It's happened because of all of us in this digital weird freedom movement, interchanging ideas. And so I was down at the Worldview Weekend this weekend, and I sat next to Karen Kingston and I listened to —there are a lot of other speakers— but we sat and talked about some stuff and, you know, she's been coming out and talking about the AI. And here's essentially what she told me in a nutshell. And we both came to the same conclusion from different, different pathways. I'm not... I would find it totally boring to research patents, but that's what she does. She's really good at that. So she found out that really what Ralph Baric did when you go back in that old research and it goes along with these patents, is he didn't really come up with the spike protein the Uber Lords wanted him to have. You know, they wanted this spike protein that could somehow infect people and do all these bad things but just couldn't get it quite work out from biologic stuff, from bat coronavirus and things or bat whatever. But here's the, here's what they apparently did. They apparently developed genetically engineered hydrogel. We knew it. We know they have that. And she sent me a book on this and I got to work my way through it. Genetically engineered hydrogel is self-replicating, it grows, and it has some features of genetics. In other words, it has features of a living thing, but it's not ‘us’ biologically. This was created, in her opinion, by AI. Now, we can talk a minute about that. But here's the point. It acts like it's a… and I wish I had a picture to show you, but picture two shapes, a diamond shape and a triangle shape. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:27:05] Okay. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:27:06] We've seen the picture of the spike protein and it's kind of this triangular shape thing that hooks into your ACE2 pathway. And that ACE2 pathway in the human body is what causes all the mayhem. You start losing your salt, you can't keep your fluid going. You get sick. It causes the symptoms that we associate with really severe COVID. Okay? Whatever we want to call COVID —and COVID is a bad name. I wish we had a different name for it, but this really probably is COVID because it's an acronym that has to do with AI. It's something-ID. AI is what this really is. But… so picture a situation where you get injected or you get dosed with this hydrogel, this genetically engineered hydrogel, in such a way —and it goes into the body in microscopic ways. And then if it comes into contact with a certain wavelength, think 5G, it then can transform from a diamond shape into this triangular shape and hook into your ACE2 pathway. That is, I think, at the heart of the disease and at the heart of the vaccine. So remember, we talked a long time ago and I said you were ahead of me in figuring out this. Not only was this not a virus, but there are no viruses. And I'm completely on board with that. Everything's been manmade, but they can make things that appear to be transmissible from human to human. But nothing quite fits. All the pieces didn't quite fit, but now it fits. Okay, so picture this: They put out a synthetic, hydrogel-based toxin, and this thing has conformational change ability based on wavelength. So this toxin is out on… they, like we saw a video of in Wuhan, they put it on computer keys, they put it on gas station pumps, they put on, you know, shelving. They can go around and clandestinely lace the world with this stuff. They could even spray it in the air. I mean, quite frankly, they can put it in your drinking water, in water, bottled water, easy to do. So what they do is they put all this stuff out, people ingest it, then they turn on the 5G and the 5G causes this triangle shape to form and it creates the disease. They can turn it off when they get done. Right? So they can go for a while, make everybody sick, and they turn it off. And then they can quit dosing people or not. Then they can do it in multiple areas, make it look like it's spreading city to city. That was stage one. I believe this is stage one. Second stage was not even the toxin. I mean, some people got it. Some people got this contact poison and they were the people that seemed to go down hard, I think. But a lot of the people that we said had “COVID” are simply people that had the flu. Notice how the flu went away. Right? Those people had the flu, but they really just had a positive PCR test, which was something else. They just got the normal winter crud and just, you know, stress, and all the things that they created. Again, an artificial, stressful situation to make the people go down. But it wasn't because they got into this toxin. Not everybody with “COVID” got into this toxin. And then, stage three was, because everybody was afraid, everybody went out and got this stupid non-vaccine. They got injected with more of this genetically engineered hydrogel. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:30:22] And now we've got the issue where people are being affected by it differentially. Now, before I go to the rest of the discussion about AI, I will just tell you the good news. The good news is, this acts like a parasite. So it is in fact, an artificially created parasite. So it explains these big, long, weird white clots that people are having. That's this thing growing in your arteries, in your vessels. And at some point it becomes critical. It also, you know, and well, so anyway. So as a parasite, here's how we attack it. I mean, this is, the point is that is that it apparently responds, I'll bet you, I can't prove this yet, but I think it responds to antiparasitic medication, because you've got to ask yourself: remember the seven words that you couldn't say on TV, that George Carlin thing, and now you could say them all. Nobody gives a shit, as they say. That was one of them. You couldn't say that. You couldn't say tits. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:31:22] You couldn't say shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker and tits. Yeah. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:31:26] And then he always said, and tits is kind of a cute word. Yeah. And motherfucker's a combination, it's really two words. He's just funny about that. But now we have the six. You could say all of these, now, you cannot say these six words. You cannot say: nitizoxinide, chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, fenbendazole, and chlorine dioxide. I can't say them as fast as George Carlin, but those are the six antiparasitic drugs. And then God help you if you recommend chlorine dioxide, that's what puts you in jail. All of these.

Patrick Gunnels [00:31:53] Chlorine dioxide. Can't you make chlorine dioxide? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:31:57] Yes. I have. And so the good news is, so nitizoxinide is probably the balm for this, because I want... These people play with word magic and 'people' —I use the term loosely— the people on the top of this pyramid that are running this shit show, they play with word magic. And so, hydragel. Now, I always thought it was hydrogel. We were told, you know, it's hydrophilic, it sucks up water, it swells up. That's what we were always told, because hydrogel is used in other things like face creams and whatever. But not this, maybe hydragel. See, they were using this to span... One of the research things they were using it for was to span nervous tissue. And they always claim, I love how many times they're trying to treat Parkinson's or spinal cord injury. They always have reasons, good reasons for doing this stuff. But they were using hydragel as in, hydra, the actual parasite, to try and grow in you and span these nerve endings because it would... Hydra actually is an immortal being. It never dies. You can chop it into a million pieces. It still keeps living and it can intercalate into your nervous system and you won't reject it. That would be a great thing if I were like this War of the Worlds alien and I want to take over the human species. That's what I'd do. So when they say hydragel, are they saying hydro- or are they saying hydra-? And I can tell you that's how I found nitizoxinide, which is, Alinea is the [brand] name. Carrie Madej, a long time ago when she saw that little animacule thing, that little thing under the slide, she showed it to me and we talked on the phone and I said, huh, could it be a hydra? And she thought, yeah. Maybe she mentioned she thought it may be hydra. And I said, Yeah, it looks like a little mini squid, like a little mini hydra. So then after I hung up, I started looking around and I said, I wonder how they, what hydra gets into. And I found that hydra is a contaminant of aquariums. Then I found that aquarium guys use nitizoxinide to clean out this hydra from their aquariums when it starts taking over. And then I found out it actually is one of the three drugs on the NIH site for the Remdesivir trial against COVID. It was remdesivir, ivermectin and nitizoxinide. How clever. So I... And then I found out it is probably the best parasitic drug out there to kill a parasite. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:34:18] Remdesivir is just wildly kidney toxic.  

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:34:24] Right, it's bad. But they mixed ivermectin and nitizoxinide in this trial, so they didn't make them look so bad. See, because not only is remdesivir very toxic, it doesn't work. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:34:32] Yeah. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:34:32] So they mixed these other drugs that work in, to make it look better. And I think that's the play. So here's what people do. I think this is our way out of this. At least right now. We do a parasite protocol. I've got it all written out on my website —and I'll bring copies to Thread Fest— how we do this, how you get the medicine, how you can start doing it right now. The beauty of chlorine dioxide, which I would never recommend to anyone else but I take myself, is that it's cheap and effective against all sorts of things. Now it may not be as quick and antiparasitic in some cases. And Bishop Grennan was the expert on this, he is now in jail, federal penitentiary for just explaining how chlorine dioxide is a great thing for people. But it was his work. He was a missionary in a third world country. That's why he used it. It was cheap. So nobody... So we don't... We're not in a situation... Number one, we're not in a situation where people can't afford the treatment. They'd love to put us in that position, but we're not in that position. And number two, we have a treatment that I think is going to be effective. Now we want to couple it with... So I do both a parasite program, I do chlorine dioxide and I do EMF mitigation. Now that gets a little pricier, but we have to do that. And at some point, you know, we're in the stage of survival and passive resistance. If it comes to active resistance, somebody's going to have to take down those 5G towers. But right now, we can protect ourselves, I think, from this. And whether you've taken the vaccine or not, because keep in mind, they may be dosing us... This is where maybe we watch the water. They may be dosing us in the water. Maybe this is one they might even be able to put into your public water and we wouldn't know it. I don't know. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:36:07] You know, how much do you think they can mass produce it? But let me just take a step back. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:36:11] Mass produce this? 

Patrick Gunnels [00:36:12] Yeah, because amount matters. You know, for example, I rejected the snake venom hypothesis because how much snake…? I mean, how much snake venom would you need to put in the water to cause…? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:36:23] Exactly. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:36:24] So I, you know. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:36:26] And it was also dose-related, snake venom. It couldn't have been snake venom because snake venom would have killed the children, not the big men. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:36:32] Oh, okay. Yes, exactly. So let's start, let's step back. So we have what appears to be, in your description, a shape-changing particle. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:36:45] A synthetic parasite that's shape changing. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:36:48] Why do you call it a parasite? What is that? What [would] a parasite have to meet the definition of a life form? So it would have to be able to reproduce. It would have to live. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:36:56] It does eat. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:36:57] What? So what does this parasite eat? Let's start with that. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:37:00] It apparently takes in, and this is what we're hearing these clots do. And that's what I think is the basis of these. Apparently, if it goes into your system, that's what parasites do. Parasites don't go, they eat off of the host just like a hookworm, you know? Anything, any other parasite you get. What does malaria eat? Well, it eats you. Okay? And these things are getting... Like we know, for example, or we believe, that it accumulates this calcium from the plasma, right from there because they notice these kind of calcific things in these clots like it accumulates the substrate from your… to self-assemble from the plasma. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:37:47] What can we ask what lab is doing work studying these particles? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:37:53] That is where I'm going to have to, I know, well, I'm going to have to.  I have the papers. I mean, Karen Kingston, again, this is hot off the press. So she's got a stack of papers like this. She's going to get me some of those. I'm going to start looking at it. I just got back yesterday. I'm going to start looking at this myself specifically. But apparently all over the world, and I would suspect it's also in Shanghai and Wuhan. I don't think... See I think these guys knew about this. And I would suspect that this is not a local phenomenon. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:38:23] Yeah, I think that you can probably cause what look like pandemics in very densely populated areas where you have plenty of EMF. If you take, for example, Doctor Zelenko's story. It always interested me because he said he had a part of upstate, or some part of New York that was a one square mile with 35,000 people. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:38:47] Right. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:38:48] And that's where it started. Well, that's one of the very first really bad outbreaks of just this crippling disease that was laying people out and putting people in a lot of danger. And he found that Anti-Parasitic protocol seemed to mitigate the illness significantly. So do we have it? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:39:10] You mean with the ivermectin? Because he initially started out with just vitamin C, quercetin, D and... 

Patrick Gunnels [00:39:16] He was [using] hydroxychloroquine. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:39:18] And hydroxychloroquine. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:39:20] Yeah. Yeah. And he was able to, he had very [few], almost no deaths. Like literally like two people died in thousands of cases. Are there other instances of this densely populated area, the story of a densely populated area with a similar, you know, similar expression of disease in large numbers that wiped out a bunch of people. Like there was a guy in India who said, well, there's this thing that people would get that they would be very flu-ey for like a week. And then on the eighth day it would seem to get better for a little bit. And then all of a sudden they would just get this collapse in SpO2 and they'd get shortness of breath.  

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:39:59] Right. And that sounds like what we were seeing, too. But when you're talking about the big concentrations, they were really in Wuhan, and Lombardy, Italy, and in New York City. But remember, they brought it. They purposely had Chinese New Year. They purposely, you know, and again, I think they purposely spread it there. Now, it's interesting, though, unfortunately, we can't completely walk away and say that Zelenko had the magic bullet completely. And one of the problems is that we now know that it's also that there are certain genetic variations in humans that make you less susceptible, somehow through the ACE2 pathway. And it may be that they, and it has to do with the binding of this to the ACE2 pathway. So very cleverly, I mean, we figured this out in a lot of ways about the, literally, the micro voltage binding of the spike protein, what we were calling the spike protein, whatever it was, to this ACE2 pathway in human beings. And one of the groups that has almost zero binding are the Ashkenazim, and that was his population. In fact, when I got this paper, I called Doctor Zelenko. You know, I knew him. I said, okay, you take care. Here's this paper. Have you seen this paper? And what do you think? Because you have a big Ashkenazi population. What do you think? And the problem is… 

Patrick Gunnels [00:41:18] Are we assuming it to be 100% Ashkenazi? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:41:20] That's the problem. So that's his problem. Now, he was inside, I thought he was near Long Island, but wherever he was, he was near New York City. It wasn't upstate. So he was in a population within a population. So his Ashkenazi population was surrounded, I think, by, you know, the Italians and other people. And they were the ones that were going down really hard. We don't completely know what would have happened had he not started using hydroxychloroquine. The other side of it is hydroxy... Because they might not have been susceptible. I too think I have the same genetic benefit, the K26R bloodline that prevents you from binding this stuff. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:41:57] I got a big, big fat dose of that bloodline myself. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:42:01] Right. Okay. So if you're from German… like I'm from German royalty, it just happens to go through the X chromosome. Now, you can't pass it to any kids, but you might have it. So that's... And hopefully my boys got it from me, but that's where it ends. So it goes through the X chromosome. So I guess I would say that, or at least, ends for most people. That is a different problem. We just don't completely know. But I think that it's very likely. What this does explain is, think of how they traced 10 million contacts of those people in Wuhan. They had all these Chinese that were sick, locked in their homes. Lots of times they didn't have anybody else in the house get it. Right? Because they'd been out somewhere when they picked this up. That's when I said, this is a contact pathogen somewhere, contact toxin. So they would be out somewhere, they'd pick it up. They went to the computer store and touched the keyboards and got it. They got sick, but nobody else in their household. And then when they tried to contact trace because they locked the people all into the household together, they were doing contact tracing and they didn't find one person, not in 10 million people. They did not find one person from a household of a sick person that they traced that gave it to anybody else. That should have made the lie of the airborne viral theory right there. That just doesn't work that way. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:43:16] It is the most wicked mind spell in the history of my existence. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:43:22] That is true. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:43:22] So many people have been permanently rendered insane by this narrative. Walking around, perceiving, yes, just thinking that the air is poisoned at all times, just spraying everything with toxins, ironically. Oh I know what I'll do to make myself better! 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:43:39] They might be right about that, but they're not right about it coming from somebody else breathing on them. Yeah, that's the anti-human part of the agenda. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:43:46] Well, here's what I don't think. I don't think that hand sanitizer is ever going to protect you from anything, ever. And if anything, it's going to leach into your skin and make you sick. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:43:55] There is a point about gloves and masks in certain things. And like, whatever Ebola was, you know, or is, that doesn't seem to spread unless you get sprayed in the eye or sprayed in the mouth by the liquid. Right? So there is a time when, and we're going to have to go back and reevaluate all this stuff, as you and I have talked about. But there was a time where gloves and gown and stuff actually made a difference. It didn't make a difference in this. And... But maybe we didn't really, you know, I don't think, it's never going to be the masks that we were wearing and it's never going to be washing your hands a million times a day or standing six feet apart in government approved circles. I can guarantee you. You're right. That will never, ever work for anything. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:44:40] Mm. What do you think they have planned next for us? Because, if you really, if you really look at what happened, it was so clearly orchestrated... 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:44:47] Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:44:49] ... to make us nuts, to make us terrified of each other. And I know I got an asthma attack. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:44:56] Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:44:58] I had an asthma attack in like April. And it was because I... And I genuinely thought to myself, in April of 2020, I thought to myself, Oh my God, maybe I have it. I didn't have anything. I had an asthma attack from sheer panic. You know? And, you know, I was running, trying to get healthy because I knew that I knew that I wasn't going to tolerate anything, and the doctors and the hospitals and all that stuff. And I gave myself an asthma attack. So many people probably did the exact same thing. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:45:30] Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:45:30] So it was an orchestration to get us sick. And then concentrated areas of poisoning. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:45:37] Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:45:38] Now, all of this has to be examined very carefully. This is what I regard, we're in the hypothesis stage. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:45:44] Hypothesis stage, but based on uncovered evidence, that makes things a lot more clear. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:45:50] Because one of the things that I've very much tried to stay on is, they want to keep us at about 50/50 at each other's throats. They need about half the population to want to kill the other half. And if they find that too high of a percentage is becoming one side, they try to figure out a way to even the balance, which is why I also think there's the, "Okay, well, let's look at the binary here. Was it randomly from the wild in a wet market or was it created in a lab?" 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:46:21] Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:46:22] False binary after false binary after false binary. And I'm wondering, how do we steel ourselves against being captured by a narrative? And that's why I'm always, okay, let's look at the paper. Let's see what happened in the lab where they actually prove this stuff. What's the source of the sample? How many samples do we have?  What controls were put into place? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:46:45] Right 

Patrick Gunnels [00:46:45] Because you don't know who's a plant and who's not. Even in my little itty bitty community of, you know, Reading Epic Threads and other slightly, you know, other bigger channels. And so we have —and I'll never get into details unless you come to Thread Fest and then I'll tell you the details in person. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:47:06] Ditto. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:47:07] We have discovered actual operators who have shown up, infiltrated, and then activated to cause discord and trouble.  

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:47:20] Yeah. I believe that. And I see it on Telegram. I see it on, you know, even Truth Social. And I see it in our medical freedom community. I mean, for lack of a better term. I kind of don't like that term, but the medical group that I hang out with that I'm constantly seeing different places and I can name names too. That, you're exactly right. You're exactly right. And so and you know, to me, the first thing is to awaken to the notion that this is all planned, that divisiveness is planned, that human beings don't want to go to war, that human beings want to get along. And once you've figured that out, look at the times they don't get along. I'll tell you. Interesting book I just read. And it's about the emancipation, after the Civil War. The skilled black workers. The skilled black workers were starting to build communities and do all sorts of things because they were now out off the plantation. And they, and believe it or not, and I think his name was Garvey. He was from Jamaica. 

[00:48:21] Marcus Garvey? 

[00:48:22] Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't know if you know this. I didn't know this. This is just something somebody sent me and I think it's really pertinent, is that when that was all happening and we were all starting to get along after, after the Civil War, the people, the, the, the, the uber lords in charge could not stand that. And so they had to make it divisive. So they, because Garvey had actually gone to, and I don't know the guy's name, the head of the KKK at the time, and made a rapprochement. Did you know that? 

Patrick Gunnels [00:48:48] No, I did not know that. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:48:49] Here's the head of the Black Freedom Movement after the war, and here's the head of the KKK, the white, you know, racially white group and the racially black group. And they get together because Garvey realized, hey, we want the same things you do. We want our people to prosper. We're not asking to intermarry or mix up. We're asking, you know, yeah, we're asking to do work, be productive and be left alone like you are. So they were getting together. Couldn't have that! That is when the AFL, which became the AFL-CIO, the AFL was formed and it prohibited skilled, it prohibited blacks from engaging in skilled labor. 

[00:49:26] [mouths: WTF?] 

[00:49:28] Yes. And that is exactly right. And when it became a legal aspect of this whole thing and I'll just say, I'll call it the Kazarian mob, then they became the lawyers for both sides. So it's just been this way forever. And when we wake up to that lie, I think that it's over for them. And I think we're starting to wake up. Now, you asked me what's next? What's next is war. They're really... Look at what they're doing. They are really, really, really. And when I say they, I do not believe it's any one nation. We have to get out of the nation-state, you know, patois, and this idea, Russia bad, America good, England good, China bad. You know, no. We all have bad factions. In fact, as crazy as it sounds, I've started talking about the Blue Faction, the Green Faction, the Red Faction and the Gold Faction. That's what apparently is out there. The Red Faction? Look at Joe Biden and his wonderful speech in September when he had that satanic backdrop. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:50:25] It was the [craziest] thing ever. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:50:27] It was unbelievable. I hope those weren't real Marines. I don't believe they were. They never moved. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:50:33] They could have been graphics for all we know. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:50:34] I think they were or they were at least mannequins. If somebody in the Marine Corps did that job, you know, we got to get to that guy. So that's not right. I don't think they did. But it's that kind of situation where we've got bad guys and good guys. Now, look at what's happening just in Russia right now. If you notice, Russia, you know, and I just had Dr. Sam Sigoloff on my show today when I was sitting in for Tamara Scott on the Lindell TV, and he was talking, he said, you know, we're not, and I said, we're not line officers, but the line officers have all kind of been quieter, abdicated. Line officers being the actual war fighters, as opposed to the support officers like physicians, dentists, engineers, nuclear power engineers, stuff like that. So anyway, but I said, tell me what you think. And he said, well, look at it. You know, the Russian Army could have, look at when we went out and we engaged in war, the American Army went to, you know, Iraq, for example. It was over in days. We flattened them. And we can, we can flatten people. And so can the Russians. The Russians would have gone into Ukraine and they could have flattened Ukraine. They could have just annihilated it within a few days, certainly within a few weeks. But they didn't. You know, I've been watching it. It's true. He sent in competent people, but not necessarily the latest state-of-the-art equipment. At first, he just played it low key. When they took out the bridge to the Crimea, that's really an act of war. Okay? But he did not call it an act of war. He called it an act of terrorism. That defuses this thing. I mean, I'm just telling you, Putin is the adult in the room over there. It's not that, as Tucker Carlson calls it, it's not the moron in the T-shirt. But unless any of your people who pay taxes are concerned that they're not getting any building of houses or anything with their taxes, just be advised that Zelinsky's parents just bought an $8 million home. Thank you, American taxpayer. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:52:32] I believe ... 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:52:33] That's what they're trying to get us into. War.

Patrick Gunnels [00:52:34] We're all on the same page with this.  Putin is very, very clearly the good guy in this conflict, to the extent that there can be good guys, in my opinion. I don't know what those bio labs in Ukraine are. I don't know what they are. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:52:51] Oh, I can talk about that. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:52:54] Well, here's the thing. What do we really know about these so-called bio labs? We're not allowed to explore them. We're not allowed... We know that they put out a lot of papers. You know, we got this patent here, this patent there. And I think a lot of what comes out of the Patent and Trademark Office can be used as propaganda. So using a patent, in my opinion, as firsthand evidence, is insufficient. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:53:19] That's not what I'm doing. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:53:20] Okay. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:53:21] No. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:53:22] I bet you it is what David Martin does and it is probably... 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:53:25] Yeah, that's what he does. But I'm going to tell you, in 1991, the Nunn-Lugar act was signed. And the idea was that when the Soviet Union was falling apart, there were all these socialist republics, and within them they had chemical, biological and nuclear weapons capabilities, stockpiles, etc. But, and we were so concerned that because they were financially insolvent, that they might get into the wrong hands, which, there is a point to that, that we allocated, and this, again, people can look this up. $400 million a year for four years to go over and buy up these labs on what I suspect was a big fire sale. And we sent our people over to run them, to bring them up to snuff, to do vaccine research and to do gain of function research. And so if you want to really ask somebody, I'll name names: Michael Callahan, who's now at Harvard. I think he's still at Harvard, but he was with USAID and he's been an ID guy, an infectious disease guy for years. And he was sent over as DARPA's man. And he went over and he did that. And he did, started up the research and he published the paper on the bat coronavirus in 2002. So I'm going to say we do know a lot about them. And Ken Alibek, you know that his name is Kanat John Alibekov. He was a defector in 1991 to the United States, but he was the number two guy in Biopreparat, the Russian civilian bioweapons program, although I don't know why they call it civilian. They always said they had a civilian program and a military program, but they all wore military uniforms. So I, that I'm clueless about. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:55:00] The civilian bioweapons program. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:55:01] Yeah. So he was doing all this stuff and he came and talked to us. Now again, what's true and what's propaganda, I don't know. But I think in all fairness, that there are, that we, what I can observe is that we were doing the bio weapons. We kind of have this play list of potential bioweaponization agents. And every time we would go over there and we would we would work on getting a lab up to snuff over in the Ukraine and maybe not so much elsewhere, but the only one I really paid attention to, they were all over though, but the only one I really paid attention to was our, going down to South Africa and the one in the Nunn-Lugar Act. I mean, they even named it the Lugar lab in Tbilisi, Georgia. It wasn't hiding. Okay? Before all this, it was, none of this was hiding. But we have evidence. We have documents of the neurosurgeon that went over to scavenge DNA from the pure Slavic people out of the Ukrainian labs. We have this. And quite frankly, if pressed, our Congress has, they're giving, our government's paying W-2's to bioweaponeers that did this. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:56:05] Mm hmm. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:56:05] Let's just be clear. If you really want to look at something, somebody that knows how to go after that should do it. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:56:09] Okay. So what you think, just to try to crystallize this, in these bio labs, they are manufacturing toxins that are genetics specific, just specific. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:56:19] They are. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:56:20] And the kind of things that would contain a hydrogel of some kind that you can leave on things that would make people of a specific profile sick. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:56:29] Well, and it's more than that, because, see, that's not the only way to transmit disease. And the Russians are, one of the things that we may have been going after was the Russians' kind of scalar understanding of disease. Now, I don't want to ruin my speech at the Thread Fest here, but I'm going to talk about that. But it's called the Kaznacheev effect. And Kaznacheev was a guy in Novosibirsk in the twenties or thirties, and he was a physician that did these very simple and elegant experiments. Often the answers are totally simple, you know, when you think about it. But they, he took us, he took tissue and he separated into two containers that were, and I think maybe we're talking about them. But the only thing between the two containers was an optical window. Now, then he would poison side A and see what happened to side B as side A's cells were dying. So he'd poison it with, say, radiation or arsenic, and then he'd watch and see what happened to side B. If the glass in the window was window glass, nothing happened to the cells in side B. If the glass was quartz, then the cells in side B would start dying at the same pattern of whatever he poisoned side A [with]. So if he did it with radiation, side B would just start dying of radiation poisoning though it had never been a thing. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:57:41] But a glass window would protect against radiation poisoning? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:57:44] No, the glass window would protect against whatever signal was being sent out from the dying cells in side A to get to side B. So, so yeah. No he did it completely away from it. In other words, when cells get sick and die, and this is what the Russians term is, like fotonnaya smert' [фотонная смерть] I think is what it is in Russian. It means death photons. 

Patrick Gunnels [00:58:04] Yeah. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [00:58:05] Okay? And so what they theorized was what's the difference between quartz and window glass? Quartz allows U.V. light through. It allows UV and near-UV radiation to get through. Not so much window glass. So what is happening is when these cells die, apparently there is some electromagnetic signature, electromagnetic emanation, if you will, coming off of them that can get through to other cells. Now, this could explain a lot in our, again, we've not, I keep your quote on my phone about that the overlords are not going to let us know how the world works. I've got it. You said it eloquently that one time. I'm going to save it and use it. But that's basically, they know how this works, but we haven't known how it works, how energy wavelengths can specifically create disease. So no, it's not just about hydrogel. There's some reason they wanted to get hydrogel into us for different reasons, like connecting our brains or other things. If they just want to make us sick, all they need is the 5G towers. The 5G towers, you know, they do things that are just, maybe, tests. Okay? But 5G ultimately can store a lot of data. It can take these signals and it can project them and make people sick. Look at Jacques Benveniste and Luc Montagnier, two French guys, researchers in water memory. These guys both, kind of, independently discovered water memory. With Jacques Benveniste, it was immunoglobulins, with Montagnier, it was DNA. But what they showed is, if you put a bioactive molecule in a beaker or water or saline, or whatever, and you kind of shake it around and get it going, then you dilute that water out. So that molecule is not there. Nothing is there anymore. It still has an electromagnetic signature of the water. I don't know how long, but for a period of time. And they captured that electromagnetic signature, they broadcast it into another beaker and it recreated the molecule, or the effect of the molecule. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:06] That's freaking insane. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:00:07] So they did capture the photons. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:10] Did Montagnier do this work after his work on HIV? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:00:14] Yes. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:14] Okay. Gotcha. So he got redpilled. And did he ever turn in his Nobel Prize? I'm just curious. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:00:19] No, no. He died last year, or two years ago. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:21] Yeah, I know. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:00:22] So no, he didn't. But ironically, he did repudiate his work before they gave him the Nobel Prize. God love Luc Montagnier. Yeah, I love that guy. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:30] That guy was hilarious. Okay. Yeah. But why do you need to isolate it? "Well, so you know that that is real." 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:00:40] Yeah, that's right. So it actually exists. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:00:43] Yeah. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:00:44] So and that's, you know, it's like I was talking to Ryan Cole about the spike protein and he was saying, well, we can see the spike protein in the dead people that have blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, how do you know it's the spike protein? Well, we have stains that show the spike protein. Where did you get the stains from? You know, that's the argument problem that we get into, is that all of us in our specialties, we kind of believe what we've been taught. And so the pathologists believe that if they have a stain, that stain shows what they're told from the company the stain shows. If it's, you know, hematoxylin, the eosinate shows cells in this way. And if it's methylene blue, it shows this way and apparently this new stain. But the new stains are supplied by the same psychopaths that supply these bioweapons. So we're not getting the truth from them. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:01:31] What about the fact that, you know, Steve Kirsch wrote after his little debate with me, he wrote, you know what I just found out? I found out you can buy SARS-CoV-2 from this little place that sells SARS-CoV-2. It's like ATCC or something like that, bro. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:01:48] You know, he made a comment to somebody recently that there aren't viruses. He may be coming around. I can't verify that. I can't prove it yet, but I heard that he did. And we may have actually won there. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:02:01] Given how much of a horse's ass he made of himself after his debate with me.  Just blowing up my email box, telling me. Ha, ha! I got you! Bacteriophages are viruses, aren't they? It's like, bro, I said, replication competent. Okay? Just because they're called bacteriophages doesn't mean they eat bacteria. They were misnamed, bruh. And then he frickin sperged out so hard after that... discussion. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:02:30] Well, apparently, this, apparently this is about Malone. So. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:02:36] Okay, guys, Robert Malone. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:02:38] So apparently, this is, you know… A number... You know, I said a couple of things about him early on and then I just kind of laid quiet because I didn't, first of all, I'm not suicidal, but second of all, I know the truth. I don't have to debate this. He's Deep, Dark State. He works for BARDA, DARPA, his list of things he's worked on, if you want to read the bio weapons list, it's his list, you know, in his own biography. So the chance he's not involved is extremely small. Plus, when Callahan went over to Wuhan in the summer of 2020, when this whole thing was breaking out, to see what was going on, sent by DARPA. Who did it? Whom did he call? He called Malone, and he called Kadlec. Robert Kadlec, the guy who moved Plum Island, the Veterinary Research Center, where they look at hoof and mouth and horrible stuff. They moved Plum Island to the middle of Kansas. A good idea! Not! So, you know, they all hang together. If we find one of these guys and we get them out in the open and they start talking, you'll find them all. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:03:40] Oh, my God. Okay. So DARPA. So what? DARPA. So it's very difficult to explain just how nasty this information war is. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:03:51] Yes. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:03:51] As you watch a three-hour interview with Joe Rogan, another beauty. And Robert Malone. And you think this guy, Robert Malone, is trying to warn us all about the vaccines, etc. They're coming out a good, solid year after it's already way too late. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:04:09] A little late, guys!

Patrick Gunnels [01:04:10] You know, the actual people who said 'don't take the damn thing,' they were silenced, called crazy, and then after everybody, including dear members of my own family, out of pure terror, took the damn thing. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:04:23] Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:04:24] Then they're. Then they come out and they say, guys, these vaccines, you've got to stay away from them. Mother fucker! I just took two Pfizer's, you bitch. And they knew. You know he knew. He's the inventor of the mRNA technology. Give me a break. He started mouthing off when he was given the okay to start mouthing off and become controlled opposition. There's no question in my mind. Want to know a little fun fact about Joe Rogan? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:04:52] Yeah. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:04:53] You might not know this. March 10th. Okay. So first of all, we have documentation on Twitter and elsewhere that as of 2009, Joe Rogan was out in public saying, we know that these vaccines are toxic. It is proven that the MMR vaccine causes autism. It is proven in court. We know this. Now, he said this in 2009. Then he gets his $200 million Spotify deal and then March 10th, 2020 he's on his podcast saying Anti-vax people are wackos. There's no reason people shouldn't be vaccinating their children, when he knows damn well. Why? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:05:43] Was a mouthpiece. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:05:44] Because he was bribed by Spotify to sell out the human race. Enjoy Hell, Joe! 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:05:50] Now you got it. You know, he was the day that Joe Rogan had Malone on, he was supposed to have my friend Mark McDonald on. Now, Mark is a very great guy who is a pediatric psychiatrist, and he at that time had written The United States of Fear. And by the way, subsequently, he's written a book called...  Shoot. Now, what's it called? It's the latest book. And it's getting out of the fear. [ed.: Freedom From Fear] Yeah, I'll think of the actual name. But anyway. And by the way, he thinks we need to put people through a 12-step program, essentially, because people have become addicted to fear, like they're addicted to alcohol or drugs. But he was supposed to be on the show and at the last minute got shoved off and they put on Malone. Now, I will tell you, I talked to Sherry Tenpenny. I said, when were we on? Because I was one of like ten of us, I think on an international podcast. It kind of reminded me of that old Hollywood Squares. I hadn't at that point, this is like September of 20, 2020? I think. It was way back. I can't remember what it was, but it was quite a ways back. It was when the Europeans were already getting the vaccine, but we weren't. So I think that had to be September of 2020. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:07:02] Europeans were getting vaccines late 2020? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:07:05] They were getting it earlier than we were. They had it rolled out earlier than we did. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:07:09] Gotcha. Okay. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:07:10] Maybe it was sometime in 2021, I may be off. Time flies when you're being tortured. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:07:15] Doesn't it, though? Yeah. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:07:15] Yeah. So but anyway, Malone was on that. And I remember, so I came on and I was talking about the first thing that happened in that thing, you know, and I say like Hollywood Squares because you know how they always were sitting in those things. And so I was on that and I was trying to talk about the fact that the Japanese had the studies, pharmacokinetic studies, showing that this stuff concentrated in the ovaries 64 times more than the skeletal muscle. That was one thing. And then the other thing I was talking about was the Australian study that came out —and I didn't know anybody else who had been pointing this out— about self-disseminating vaccines that sterilized the mice by damaging their ovaries. Exactly what we're talking about here. Yeah, well, while I'm doing that little discussion, this was my one little part in this podcast, Malone's back there doing this [bobbing head back and forth] like in the Hollywood Square, doing that, being very distracting. And then when it was all done, his comment was, well, Dr. Merritt doesn't understand the literature. And then, when at the end of the time, I'm just telling you, this is verifiable. You can find this video somewhere. The host, who was from, I believe, England. She was European. She wanted us all to sign a letter just asking for this thing to be stopped, the roll out of the vaccines to be stopped, because we don't have enough information, because it appears to be harmful. And so everybody except Malone was going to sign it, but he wouldn't sign it. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:08:37] These people are so friggin evil. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:08:39] But that's but, you know, I'm going to read a little about counter intel, but, you know, that's what it is, counter intel. You don't lie about anything. What you do is you realize that once the cow is out of the barn a little bit, now you've got to protect the rest of the animals from getting out. So we knew about certain things that gave us that. But we don't want you to get the rest of this stuff.* That's what they do. So they concentrate on things that don't matter anymore, so you don't keep looking. 

[Ed. Note: Limited Hangout operation]

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:07] So that's why it's so important to see what they're putting out now. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:09:11] Right. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:11] Because now we have, look at Candace Owens and Kanye West going around talking about the Jewish media. This is what I think they're going to try to do. I think they want to get normal people to start being suspicious of Jews. Like random Jews in the street, rather than the teeny tiny group of people who call themselves Jews who are… 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:09:39] The Kazarians. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:40] Or whatever the hell. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:09:41] They're deep in, whoever they are. We want… I think they're the Kazarians but they're the people that have infiltrated and are using Judaism as a cover. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:49] Yes. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:09:50] And by the way, they use other things as a cover. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:53] They do. Absolutely. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:09:55] The Catholic Church. Jesuits, for example. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:56] Yep. Yep. God knows. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:09:57] It's not just Judaism. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:09:59] Yeah, not just Judaism, but. But now you have. Because, I'm sorry, if you work for The Daily Wire. I just, I got to question that. I got to at least question the wisdom of the decision to work for The Daily Wire. So you got Candace Owens putting out this narrative now, that it's the Jewish media and you've got Kanye West putting out the narrative that it's the Jewish media. We've always known that the people at the top of all the media companies were Jewish, same as banking, same. They've got, you know, they call their  “religion” Judaism. We've known that forever. Why is it leaking out into Conservative Incorporated in media? Do you see any kind of strategic rearguard going on there? Because that's what I call it. I call it a strategic rearguard. Okay. There's this thing that's going to come out. So we're going to let it come out, but we're going to put it out and we're going to put our own spin on it, which is how I think that these information wars happen. I'm just spitballing here. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:10:59] Yeah, I mean, it's a tough question and that's why I use the term Kazarian because if you… I'm just not in and I'm, I've paid for it, I haven't gotten it yet. There's three volumes that Solzhenitsyn wrote on the history of the Kazarians. Because he was in the gulag. He was put into the gulag by people who were taught to me, as a Russian minor in college, as being Russians. But they were not Russians. The Bolsheviks were not Russians that took over and killed the czar. You know Trotsky. Who'd he hang out with in New York City? Jacob Schiff, the great-great, what, uncle of Adam Schiff.* 

[Ed Note: I was unable to verify this claim]

Patrick Gunnels [01:11:36] Mm hmm. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:11:37] Now we can call him an Ashkenazi Jew, or we can call him a Kazarian. I don't. But I'm telling you, there is an issue here, and they've kind of, you know, there was a book. There's a book out there. It's called Jews Are the Problem. It's a terrible title. It gets the facts right. But we've got the... The Jewish in my opinion, the Jewish community has to stand up and say, wait a minute, we are not all bad guys in this. This is… you got to understand our history. And they should take on this history.

In fact, Arthur Kessler wrote about this, about the Khazarians. And this is history that needs to come out. We need to clarify whom we're talking about here. You can't hide and tell me you're, you know, you're one thing, that you're a, you know, these are not Torah practicing Jews that are the bad guys doing this to us. Let's be very clear. Okay? I mean, my good friend Larry Palevsky, he's Ashkenazi, I think. He's a Torah practicing Jew. Anyway, this is not the problem. But if they don't take this on and cleanse their own ranks and say, hey, we just found out there's been a group within us that have been doing this and they have this funny bloodline and blah, blah, blah. Now they have the bloodline too. Probably all the Ashkenazi have the bloodline. See, the Amish have this, too. The Amish are the same bloodline, but they and maybe they don't, maybe they eschew technology because when they came out of that area of Eastern Europe, they recognized the story. It was passed down from their ancestors. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:13:07] Mm hmm. Yeah

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:13:07] I mean, you know, we get little clues from people you would least expect. Like Jay Parker, who is a guy who is helping people escape from ritual, or what's called generational satanic abuse. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:13:21] Mm hmm. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:13:22] And his mother told him that their family came from a long line of witches. And by the way, Jay Parker said he was tortured from the time he was in the cradle till he was six years old. And at that point, they either kill you, they let you forget everything and just become normal, or they assume, they subsume you into the cult of what they call the ‘old religion.’ Well, he said that his mother would tell him these stories about their family. And it was... And this is something I'd heard years ago. And it just clicked when I started following this blood trail. And he said his mother was from an old line of witches called the Amalekites. If you look in the Bible, the Amalekites in the Old Testament, this is the tribe that God commanded King Saul to murder down to their sheep. You mean, why would you do that? But her family, she said, but we were some of the families that got out and they went to this area called Phrygia, which is kind of in eastern Turkey, apparently near and a part of Anatolia, I guess. Now that is where the Khazarians that are now, we call Khazarians, but they weren't called. I don't know what they were called then. Maybe they were still the Amalekites, but whatever they were, they came out of there into what is now Ukraine. If you look at the… in fact, I have a picture of the tamga of Khazaria, the symbol of Khazaria, the seal of Ukraine and the seal of Moloch, the god of child sacrifice. It's all the same symbol. Okay? So these guys came out of there, in eastern Turkey and they went into this area and they called it Khazaria. They took over the royal family. They became the Khazarians. So it's a big mess. But I'm awaiting Solzhenitsyn's tome. There's only two volumes. Only one has been translated into English. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:15:10] My Russian wouldn't be able to get through it. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:15:12] No, I think it's really getting I... Me neither. I mean, I practiced it. I practiced it on… You know, you can't even practice. I used to practice on Telegram on R.T. Russian. They took that off. They took the English off. Now they've taken off the Z news. They've taken off. You... Even on Telegram, they're censoring anything coming from the Russians. So you only get this blather about, you know, the moron in the tee shirt. I think it's... 

Patrick Gunnels [01:15:37] You know, one thing I found really exciting about that was when Tucker just went off on him and said,  

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:15:42] I that's where I got that term, the moron in the tee shirt. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:15:44] Up yours, buddy! 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:15:47] Yeah. And I don't think at that time he knew that his parents had bought an $8 million house because that’s something Tucker would have said. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:15:54] You know, naturally, he is literally an actor. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:15:57] Yeah, I know, he is. And that's what they do. But he's an actor related to Soros, you know. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:16:02] He's like part of the family? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:16:04] Oh, you should... I'll try and find this. It might be on my phone. There's a picture, and I saved it somewhere because I said this is going to come up again. And there's a picture of Zelinsky and they aged him and then there's a picture of Soros and they de-aged him and they're like twins. So he's either a clone or a, you know, grandson or something. He's a Soros... This is what the... This is how the family, this tribe of people in this bloodline do things. And I'm going to tell you, there's a pattern. Again, this sounds... If I'd said this five years ago, I would have thought, I would have thought it would probably have turned myself in to psychiatry. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:16:38] Right? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:16:39] Right? I mean, this sounds crazy. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:16:40] We're all saying stuff. We're all... Listen. Present self, at this point, we have to acknowledge, would be booby hatch material if observed by our five-years-ago self. There's no way around it. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:16:55] Absolutely. There's no way around it. I mean, I knew five years ago that we had a dark state that was kind of running the country and even running the world to some degree. But I had no clue it was this... This is the way it worked. But it is a bloodline. It is not just a bunch of people that are kind of bad people. This is a bloodline. And they... This bloodline has kept their bloodline very pure by making sure they only marry in the tribe. Think, King Charles. When he was Prince Charles and married Diana, I mean, that's what this is about. You know, he had to have all this special testing of Diana. And she used to tell people… you know, David Icke is not sounding crazy at all anymore, by the way. She used to tell David Icke's friend, that she, that the family were reptilians and that she was like the broodmare. That's all she was for. She was the broodmare. So they had to. So she was genetically chosen. Now, why do you think they had… We used to think it was cute. Why do you think they had all those books of peerage, like Burke's Peerage, to decide who you... Because they want to know where everybody sits in the line. You know, and it's not about, you know, the thing about Diana, I remember thinking about it this time. Why do they make such a big deal about her lineage? Because inheritance in the royal families is always through the first, the oldest son. Why do they care about her? Well, they care because she carries the bloodline. See, it's the women that carry the bloodline. Some of... Whatever this is. Part of it anyway. So it's crazy. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:18:21] That is crazy. All right, well, naturally, this hour went by faster than I could even imagine. Please tell my audience where they can find you besides www.TheMedicalRebel.com  

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:18:34] Yeah, that's one place. I don't. I'm... I have a Rumble channel that I need to put more on, but there's some interesting stuff there. And I'm probably going to move over to Buttar's Advanced Medicine Channel. And more to follow on that to put some stuff on there. But that's mostly it. And I have a podcast and I have things on my channel and, and I try and put out information to be helpful. Like, if people want to watch, everybody should. If you want to treat, you want to get yourself cleansed of parasites. I'm going to be honest, I don't think you can just do it with walnut husks. I like herbals, I use them. But you've got to start with real medicine. Sometimes the pharmaceutical companies got it right. And I tell you how to do that. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:19:14] All right. So where do we get your parasite protocol? 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:19:17] On the front of TheMedicalRebel.com  

Patrick Gunnels [01:19:19] All right, check that out, guys. TheMedicalRebel.com . I'm so excited that we're going to have you at Thread Fest. November 11th through the 14th, the Dallas Southlake Hilton Resort. It's going to be a lot of fun. Hopefully we can get some breakout sessions because I have a funny feeling there's a big portion of the audience is going to watch you speak and be like, look, we got to get more details on all of this. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:19:41] I know. In an hour you can't. It's just nuts. Yeah, that'll be fun. I'm really looking forward to it. I saw the speaker line up. Looks fabulous. I just. And I'm so excited to be, you know, usually I end up hanging out with the same old doctors. No offense to my doctor friends, but we all hang out together. You know? It's kind of like when I worked in the hospital, I'd like to meet somebody that isn't a doctor, you know? So I'm really looking forward to this. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:20:03] Absolutely. Dr. Merritt, talk to you very soon. Thank you so much for being here. 

Dr. Lee Merritt [01:20:08] Thank you. 

Patrick Gunnels [01:20:12] And that is our show for today. Thank you so much to Dr. Lee Merritt for joining me. Always a great discussion. She's going to be at Thread Fest, guys. She's going to be speaking and it's going to be epic. So don't miss it. Go to the first link in the description of this video. Sign up for your in-person tickets, for your livestream tickets, and sign up to get your gorgeous Thread Fest 2 challenge coin. November 11th through the 14th. Dallas, Texas. The Southlake Hilton Resort. 

[01:20:41] Let's do a quick poem from Claude Bernardin. 

Afterglow. 

America. She's imperfect, but blue, radiant. Under cloud, so white. 

Once I was a blind fool. But now I salute you. Eyes opened wide. 

They've blurred the boundaries, trampled and desecrated truth and liberty. America, it's time to stand and rise. 

Not shy away from filthy, prying, lying minds. 

Yes, inspiration can be dangerous, even your worst enemy in darker times. 

But think of the positive possibilities. All the beautiful, endless views. 

All you ever needed was a clean, blank page. No more shadows chasing after you. 

There's been too many misguided efforts these days. Crimes against your constitution, your country, your flag of beautiful red valor, white purity, and old glory blue. 

America. Still brave in the land of the free. 

But it's time now to break down all these walls closing in on me. 

I see hope's crimson light who dawns sleepy trees. 

The dark tones are lifting and fading away. 

As the morning sun burns off all my distant gray. 

America. America. Where we go one. We go all. 

My patriots, my family. Stand vigilant and strong and always remember. Never. Take your eye off the ball. 

[01:22:14] Thank you, Claude Bernardin, the poet laureate of our community. Let us pray. 

[01:22:23] Saint Michael, the Archangel. Defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do Thou O Prince of the Heavenly Host by the power of God cast into Hell, Satan and all evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. 

[01:22:45] I love you all. Thank you so much for being here. I'll see you tomorrow.